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re: Uber Halts Autonomous-Car Testing After Fatal Arizona Crash

Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:31 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:31 am to
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especially you as you text and drive.


now you're being dishonest. i said the driver who gave control over to his ROBOT car is the one texting & playing games because he belives (like your dumb arse) that the robot car software built by the people who created the UBER app is superior to his own reflexes in every way.

stop trying to change what i'm saying.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:33 am to
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now you're being dishones
YOu said you text and drive every day but I'm being dishonest by saying you text and drive. Fun!!!

quote:

i said the driver who gave control over to his ROBOT car is the one texting & playing games because he belives (like your dumb arse) that the robot car is superior to his own reflexes in every way.
1. I know, I already discussed how you made that up out of thin air as it regards to the OP.

2. Do you have a robot car? Because you already text and drive seemingly without a robot car, so that makes your point irrelevant.

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stop trying to change what i'm saying.
By repeating what you're saying?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:36 am to
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YOu said you text and drive every day but I'm being dishonest by saying you text and drive. Fun!!!


please find the post where i said that.

i have time, i'll wait.




eta still waiting
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:37 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:38 am to
bump

still waiting

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:39 am to
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please find the post where i said that.


Here ya go

ME: YOU want to send a human driver who you admit are prone to texting while driving.

YOU: uh, i do this every single afternoon and so far i've done pretty well.





You stated you text and drive every single afternoon. Thanks you, drive through.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:43 am to
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ME: YOU want to send a human driver who you admit are prone to texting while driving.

YOU: uh, i do this every single afternoon and so far i've done pretty well.


nice try. i was responding to this:

quote:

have you ever driven down 12th into the gulch particularly on a Friday afternoon?

Pretty sure people walking out in front of you..valets darting out in front of you at full speed racing to get a car..pre teen girls taking selfies in front of buildings standing in the road.. drunk bacherloettes stumbling out of pedal taverns..is the norm.

You want to send a robot car into that chaos


i concede where you *think* i said i'm doing that while texting but that's because i just quoted your retort in full.

eta you really think i'd brag about texting while driving in that type of environment?
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:45 am to
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nice try. i was responding to this:

Except that you responded to MY post about texting/driving and said you did it every day.

That's your frick up, not mine. It's as clear as day, you may not have meant it, but you said you text/drive every afternoon. Own it, your frick up.

quote:

i concede
Cool, glad we both see it as your frick up.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:45 am to
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would you *EVER* trust a robot-controlled vehicle to truly take in the world around them and be safer than an average driver on an average day?


Yes.

We’re not there yet, but similar stances were taken regarding tons of technological advances before they matured.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:47 am to
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That's your frick up, not mine. It's as clear as day, you may not have meant it, but you said you text/drive every afternoon. Own it, your frick up.


glad you win on a technicality where i pasted some QUOTE-PASTA after 15 pages of this nonsense that you think contradicts what i've said on the other 14.9 pages.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:49 am to
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glad you win on a technicality where i pasted some QUOTE-PASTA after 15 pages of this nonsense that you think contradicts what i've said on the other 14.9 pages.

Ok, don't frick up next time, and we can avoid that. Cool?


Now, wanna talk about that OP and how you blamed the self driving car while I was saying let's let the facts play out, then today we learned that the robot car had no chance to stop in time?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:55 am to
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then today we learned that the robot car had no chance to stop in time?


ok i'll play along:

Does the robot software:

- look for motion in the dark between parked cars or only focus on the road ahead?
- look for blinking lights or possible glimpse of reflective night gear between parked cars that indicate there's a person there?
- perform an evasive maneuver in a way that might only result in injury rather than death to the pedestrian?
- did it ever slow or simply drive over the woman at full speed since it didnt 'detect the object in time'
- did it happen to say..notice the woman with a bike as it was turning on the street or other context clues a person might notice (see my deer story above) that may have resulted in the car going at a slower speed 10-15 seconds before contact?
- speaking of speed, was it FULL ON SPEED LIMIT speed here or was the car taking into account that its night and its in an urban area where unpredictable things might happen?
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3322 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:58 am to
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shel311


Sounds like you suck at driving


The real answer to this problem is robot bikes.


Serious question, if the sensors are so good why does it matter if she was in a crosswalk or not? Shouldn’t the car treat every part of the road like a crosswalk?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:59 am to
I don't know the answers to any of those questions.

But the best part is, you don't either, so...


What we do know is that early reports are stating there was NOTHING the human or robot car could have done, we know THAT..."some of us" just ignore it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Sounds like you suck at driving
So you trust other drivers?

Good luck with that. If me not trusting 16 year old girls and everyone texting on their phones makes me a bad driver, i'm good with that.

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Serious question, if the sensors are so good why does it matter if she was in a crosswalk or not? Shouldn’t the car treat every part of the road like a crosswalk?
If you're driving and someone on the side of the road just jumps out at you last second, what the heck good is a sensor going to do? That basically seems to be what happened here or else the reports would not be telling us they had no time to stop.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:07 pm to
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i'm talking billions of things your brain processes..a kids bike laying on the ground..a frisbee in the air you catch out of the corner of your eye..the sound of a dog barking getting closer..the list goes on and on and on.. you know where i live..half the time when i'm coming home at dusk there are deer which COMPLETELY blend into the surroundings. they are COMPLETELY STILL. yet i slow way down because 1 out of 10 times one will dart across the road at the last minute.


The autonomous car would be better at detecting these things than you are with only your naked eye, they all incorporate 360 infrared scanning into their decision making. The cars reaction time would be faster, being able to sense movement, and determine trajectory to the car and needed action faster than you could turn your head.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77890 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:09 pm to
can we at least stop with the 'police report of responsibilty is infallible' and wait for the actual video to come out?

if it actually DOES come out..or maybe uber will say it mysteriously didnt record or that because police said they're not at fault they don't feel compelled to release it.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:27 pm to
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The autonomous car would be better at detecting these things than you are with only your naked eye
Exactly, this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:28 pm to
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can we at least stop with the 'police report of responsibilty is infallible' and wait for the actual video to come out?

Sure, are you going to stop blaming the driverless car in the meantime?

I mean, you can't tell me to stop using a police report and wait for a video when you have made up your mind before you had either.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110490 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:34 am to
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can we at least stop with the 'police report of responsibilty is infallible' and wait for the actual video to come out?

Police have seen the video, story is still the same. Pedestrian walked out onto the road suddenly and per the police, "It's very clear it would have been difficult to avoid this collision in any kind of mode."

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:42 am to
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Maybe the car did make a moral decision and that's why it ran her over?


Skynet just identified mankind as an existential threat.

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