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re: Two Russian fighters buzz a US destroyer
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:05 am to dnm3305
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:05 am to dnm3305
quote:Who gives a shite about ship names. They could call it the USS Bush Did 9/11 for all I care, as long as it gets the job done.
Well he was a brave bad motherfricker, a patriot and an honorable American. That doesn't mean he had an intimidating name. His name sucked.
Disclaimer: Bush did not do 9/11
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:07 am to dnm3305
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Well he was a brave bad motherfricker, a patriot and an honorable American. That doesn't mean he had an intimidating name. His name sucked.
so did George Washington's
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:14 am to N2cars
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Those planes are unarmed.
We knew that.
And the Russys knew we knew that
I heard on the news this morning that while unarmed, at least one of those Russian SU-24's was carrying intelligence collection pods to gather information on the electronic signatures of our defensive systems.
They also said on the news that in addition to being an intelligence gathering mission, this was that son of a bitch Putin basically showing our European allies (who this ship was operating with at that time on a NATO mission) that he can basically do what he wants and our weak leadership in Washington won't do shite. Remember when the Iranians captured a navy boat not long ago and they paraded our sailors on their knees with their hands on their heads and Washington didn't say or do shite? That sent a message to Putin that Obama is feckless and won't do shite about things like this.
One thing I'm wondering about though is why did a US Navy destroyer allow these fighters to approach so close without ever going to general quarters?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:16 am to Darth_Vader
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One thing I'm wondering about though is why did a US Navy destroyer allow these fighters to approach so close without ever going to general quarters?
Come on, darth. This wasn't out of the ordinary 30 years ago.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:20 am to upgrayedd
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Come on, darth. This wasn't out of the ordinary 30 years ago.
Not saying it's not happened in the past. But that does not change the fact that when a US Navy vessel identifies incoming aircraft approaching at high speed, once those aircraft reach a certain point, general quarters are called so the ship is ready for whatever could happen.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:23 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:28 am to Darth_Vader
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I heard on the news this morning that while unarmed, at least one of those Russian SU-24's was carrying intelligence collection pods to gather information on the electronic signatures of our defensive systems.
Did Putin respond that this was false and he already has everything he needs from Hillary?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:31 am to upgrayedd
Darth is a highly respected naval and motorbike consultant. Respect him sir.
LOL
LOL
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:31 am to upgrayedd
quote:that was a well known "freedom of navagation" mission. I guarantee you those ships were at general quarters during this time.
Doesn't look like general quarters to me
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:34 am to Darth_Vader
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intelligence collection pods to gather information on the electronic signatures of our defensive systems.
Russian electronic capabilities are vastly overrated.
They only get what the Chinese sell them (which they stole from us).
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:35 am to notiger1997
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Darth is a highly respected naval and motorbike consultant. Respect him sir.
LOL
My knowledge goes far more towards land warfare. But I do know that all US ships have a set defensive zone around them that if an unidentified or unfriendly ship or plane enters, the ship goes to general quarters so it is ready in case something goes down. Or at least that used to be the case.
Hell, we shot down an Iranian passenger jet in the Persian Gulf back in the 80s because it approached too close to our ships.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:35 am to Darth_Vader
Well hell.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:38 am to fr33manator
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They're the main ones hitting ISIS in the nose right now.
no they are not
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:40 am to uway
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This could be seen as a friendly overture. They were just playing around. Keeping up international relations.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:41 am to StraightCashHomey21
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no they are not
Didn't they already withdraw from Syria? I remember hearing that Putin just out of the blue declared victory and said they were pulling out a few weeks ago.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:41 am to Darth_Vader
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One thing I'm wondering about though is why did a US Navy destroyer allow these fighters to approach so close without ever going to general quarters?
Good question.. I can only speculate that they new in advance the jets were unarmed and did not want to give the Russians too much data with which the Russian systems could monitor while buzzing our destroyer...
I am only guessing...
Another question is what if any air support was in the area and what role did they play...
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:42 am to Kujo
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:44 am to Darth_Vader
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Didn't they already withdraw from Syria? I remember hearing that Putin just out of the blue declared victory and said they were pulling out a few weeks ago.
Yea they pulled out a few weeks ago
They were not in Syria to take on ISIS despite what the Russian propaganda media was saying.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:46 am to klrstix
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Good question.. I can only speculate that they new in advance the jets were unarmed and did not want to give the Russians too much data with which the Russian systems could monitor while buzzing our destroyer...
I am only guessing...
Another question is what if any air support was in the area and what role did they play
Well this took place in the Baltic during a joint exercise with NATO members. And if you'll look at a map, you'll see the Baltic is a pretty small sea where you'd never be out of the range of land based air assists. I'd imagine the closest air assets would have been either Polish or German fighters.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
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They were not in Syria to take on ISIS despite what the Russian propaganda media was saying
I'd say their main goal was to prop up Assad. And to be honest, looking at what's happened to other Middle East countries that have their dictator driven from power, I think it's best Assad stays.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:51 am
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