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Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:15 pm to buckeye_vol
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That being said, it's been clear over the last year and a half that some of these types of principles are not inherently a foundational principle.
I don't think anyone thinks these politicians stick to their principals.
We're talking about American conservative principals. Free trade is very much part of that (I never said it was necessarily carried out perfectly in practice)
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:16 pm to buckeye_vol
Exactly.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:16 pm to Collegedropout
my bad
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:16 pm to buckeye_vol
Beacuse just like the idiots on the far left, the ones on the right also have an agenda to push. Both sides hate facts unless those facts prove their side
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:17 pm to Collegedropout
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It's not. Conservatism isn't libertarianism. I can make a list of people that are conservatives that supported protectionist policies if you would like.
With your logic, we have never had a conservative president, at least in the past 150 years, since any one you would list as a conservative supported protectionism
Once again, we're confusing basic principals vs. enacted policies.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:18 pm to indianswim
They're always coming after the children.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:23 pm to indianswim
Free market is gonna be a bitchhh
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:24 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Conservativism has embraced free trade. I'm just saying that I don't think it's a inherently conservative principle one way or the other.
We're talking about American conservative principals. Free trade is very much part of that (I never said it was necessarily carried out perfectly in practice)
Although I'm looking at it from the core prevailing idea of conservatism (to conserve) and the inherent psychological traits (e.g., need for closure) that seem to draw people to the ideology.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:36 pm to Collegedropout
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So who is more conservative than Trump in recent politics?
Literally half of elected republicans.
He's a pandering moderate.
Which I happen to like. We need moderates. People with common sense.
"Hey, gays should be able to get married. Wanting to cut your penis off IS a mental illness. And rednecks should be able to own any guns they want."
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:38 pm to indianswim
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Gen Z will be our queerest most fearless generation yet
The only difference between today is that more people are not afraid to come out.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:40 pm to upgrayedd
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I hear that generation is actually bucking the millennial hyper-PC trend.
That's what I'm seeing. It's like they're rebelling against the millennials.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:45 pm to GurleyGirl
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Honestly I won't be surprised if one day this website is purchased by progressives who will immediately proceed to censure it.
The censor ball started rolling a while ago.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:57 pm to Bmath
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But damn anyone for banning free speech, especially like this
Which government entity kept her from exercising free speech?
Its both funny and alarming how many people don't know what "freedom of speech" means
Getting banned off twitter for being a homophobe is not an assault on free speech
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:11 pm to Eightballjacket
Typically how it happens actually.
Any swing in one direction politically is met by an equally intense swing in another direction.
The roaring 20s begat Hitler. What do you believe the millenials will cause?
Any swing in one direction politically is met by an equally intense swing in another direction.
The roaring 20s begat Hitler. What do you believe the millenials will cause?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:13 pm to upgrayedd
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I just hope it goes beyond a "punk rock" type movement and goes more mainstream.
I just hope we get some new, good punk rock.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Its both funny and alarming how many people don't know what "freedom of speech" means
(Patiently waits for definition)
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:14 pm to TheCaterpillar
Yep. Don't like Twitter censoring people? Start your own "anything goes free-for-all" social media platform.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:21 pm to Bmath
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But damn anyone for banning free speech, especially like this
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Which government entity kept her from exercising free speech?
Never claimed it was a government agency, did I?
The media, facebook, twitter, etc.. like to claim they are all about free speech, but will censor it at the drop of a dime.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:26 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Its both funny and alarming how many people don't know what "freedom of speech" means
Getting banned off twitter for being a homophobe is not an assault on free speech
How is it not?
Did anyone mention it violated one of the bill of rights?
If I personally ban someone from my business for their personal views, I am hindering their freedom of speech. I have the right to do so, but I am still hindering their freedom of speech. I never said it was something they could legal not do[banning freedom of speech]...
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