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re: Turning Point USA announces they're putting on their own Super Bowl halftime show

Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36136 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:41 pm to
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No one's "butthurt" to explain to folks that Puerto Ricans are American citizens and cannot be deported. If anything, I'd say the folks putting on their own "halftime show" because they aren't satisfied with what's offered are the "butthurt" ones.

My comment was in reference to the article with its “gotcha” attempt, no one particularly in this thread.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56680 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:42 pm to
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If that were the case, then those born in certain parts of this country and only speaking English would already be better educated than they already are.


Let’s assume you are a lawyer. Your client does not speak English. You have to go to a deposition regarding the case. Because your client speaks no English, you must speak with her daughter to ask your client questions. Your clients daughter has an abnormal work schedule. You can’t directly speak to your actual client and ask specifics because she doesn’t understand English.

Is that a positive or negative in this country? Pretending being ignorant of the native language is a good thing is quite a take.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36136 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:45 pm to
He’s trying to argue the inverse as if you’re saying that speaking English automatically will make you educated and that everyone who speaks English is educated, rather than the fact that not speaking English is a limiting factor of your potential success if you live in a country with English as its dominant language.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2721 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:45 pm to
That would bring so many eyeballs to the TV, actually very smart if it happened. Even the thought or rumor of it is good publicity for TP and NFL. Maybe one of the best marketing tactics in a while.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
27902 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:46 pm to
What is Turning Point?
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
2259 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:46 pm to
Frick you downvoting America haters
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56680 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:48 pm to
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What is Turning Point?


You live under a rock or just pretending to be ignorant?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13241 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:49 pm to
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If you refuse to assimilate because you are too tied to your root culture of your home nation, then why are you leaving your home nation?


100%. This has worked in the US since the Ellis Island days, mostly, because we have taken in immigrants from countries that are similarly valued as us. It works with Central and South Americans because generally we have the same Christian values, and quit frankly most of the ones coming here hate the Leftism that has infected their countries since the 1960's. My big worry is that a lot of the Indian and Middle Eastern immigrants now is they have zero desire to assimilate. A LOT do, especially if they end up places like Louisiana where they have no choice but to, but a non-insignificant number don't. Places like the UK are actively encouraging them not to assimilate, and that is why they are having so many issues.

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Legal immigration, you must wait in line, take tests, pay $10,000 (if that's still the right number) and become Americanized into our society. Illegal immigration has no way of "earning" citizenship. It's a selfish attitude that you deserve citizenship and do not have to pay any price or pay any dues to do so.



First part of this is right, the second part is only partially right. There are many ways for an illegal immigrant to gain status in the US. It is harder and more costly than doing it the legal way from the beginning ultimately, but still viable for a percentage.

As someone who is intimately familiar with the intricacies of US immigration law and policy, I can confidently state neither side is willing to compromise enough to create an updated system that actually works.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36136 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:00 pm to
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You live under a rock or just pretending to be ignorant?

I don’t really know what it is either, I can use context clues and guess that it was a company that Kirk either founded or worked for, but I don’t know for sure

There are people who don’t watch “the news”. I just don’t think it really adds anything to my life, I’d rather live in my bubble with my family and friends and focus on things that affect my day to day life.

ETA: it’s not just that I don’t watch the news, I don’t watch any live television outside of live sporting events (really just football or college baseball).
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 4:03 pm
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2899 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:01 pm to
This is the dumbest shite I have seen in a minute
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33565 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:03 pm to
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This is the dumbest shite I have seen in a minute



The alternative halftime show or a "christian" halftime show. If the former, alternative halftime shows have been a thing for a couple decades now.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72700 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:05 pm to
bro must hate the Puppy Bowl with a passion, it’s been going on for a decade.

We gotta get the PuppyBowl shut down this year, all eyes on PR Drake.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10946 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:08 pm to
Taking a stand in favor of illegal immigration? Nothing about is noble. The mental gymnastics you frickers go through to justify things….
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37322 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:11 pm to
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A melting pot works when everyone melts…. when they blend into a shared culture.

What we have now isn’t a melting pot; it’s a buffet line, where everyone just takes what they want from America without giving anything back.

Yes, America has always welcomed immigrants. The kind who wanted to become Americans. The ones who came here legally, learned English, embraced our values, waved our flag, and built something lasting. I call them pioneers and patriots.


The “melting pot” thing is a nice story, but it’s never worked that way. The vast majority of first-generation immigrants don’t melt and never have. They speak their native language, cling to their culture, and try to gain a foothold. Their kids grow up fluent in English, go to school here, and stop speaking the old language. By the third generation, they’re basically indistinguishable except maybe they cook better. That’s the pattern. That's the "melt." And it's repeated in every wave since the 1800s.

So when you say “today’s immigrants refuse to assimilate,” you're describing the same first-generation phase as Germans, Italians, Poles, and Swedes. Same curve. The first group keeps its roots, the kids blend, the grandkids forget. It's always worked this way.

Calling America a “buffet line” accidentally gets it right though. That’s exactly what this country is. People bringing ingredients and mixing them into the spread. That’s why we have pho, fettuccine, and tacos in the same strip malls.

Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2899 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:12 pm to
They actually think people are going to tune into this over a halftime show with The Bad Bunny and risk the chance of missing Super Bowl commercials?


Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
232 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:13 pm to
that cult, sounds perfect for them
Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
232 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:15 pm to
hes an old frick that is irrelative, same as old frick trump
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2899 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:16 pm to
According to AI it’s an entertainment company like fox/cnn spreading click bait and false claims
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2807 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:16 pm to
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My president (foolishly) once said "take the guns first, due process later." To a lot of people, boot licking seems to be a feature, not a bug, as long as it's someone on your side saying it.
That happens when you don't actually care about rights, liberty, the separation of powers, limited government, etc. as much as you care about using the power of the state to hurt the people you don't like and silence the ideas that annoy you.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72700 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:18 pm to
that’s a decent well-thought out rebuttal, but I still whole-heartedly disagree.

You’re right, the first generation held onto its language and culture. But the difference is, the system expected them to assimilate. Schools taught English, businesses operated in English, the majority of consumable media in English, and politicians didn’t pander in fifteen different languages to win votes. There was one culture to join … not a hundred competing ones.

What we have today isn’t the same “melting” pattern, it’s fragmentation. When entire cities operate in multiple languages, when people refuse to identify as Americans first, and when illegal entry is rewarded instead of punished, that’s not melting. That’s erosion.

And sure, pho and tacos are great. Love
it all. But importing recipes isn’t the same thing as importing respect for the nation that lets you sell them. And again, you know this.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 4:35 pm
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