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Tugboat sinks near Luling

Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:58 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:58 pm
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Crew members were rescued after a ship and a tugboat crashed on Sunday evening, according multiple officials. The sheriff's office said a tanker was traveling upriver when it struck the tugboat, causing it to sink. It added that crew members are being checked by EMS and will be transported to a hospital if necessary.


Thankfully seems like all crew members are ok
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:13 pm to
Always interested in how this happens as it shouldn’t if someone is doing their job
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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39228 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:15 pm to
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Always interested in how this happens as it shouldn’t if someone is doing their job


I’m wondering if one of our highly paid river pilots was involved
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:18 pm to
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all crew members are ok
tug life
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34030 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:26 pm to
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Always interested in how this happens as it shouldn’t if someone is doing their job
Kind of easy to say this shite from a couch with zero knowledge
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:26 pm to
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I’m wondering if one of our highly paid river pilots was involved


They don't work around the holidays. Their nephews do.
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:27 pm to
How does this happen? I thought they have river pilots on the tankers while they are traveling?
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:32 pm to
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Always interested in how this happens as it shouldn’t if someone is doing their job

Kind of easy to say this shite from a couch with zero knowledge


Well, there's radar, AIS, radio, spotlights, and a person charged with watch duty. The tankers and tugs don't move very fast.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
51502 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:35 pm to
Somebody, maybe several, fricked up.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:43 pm to
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Crew members were rescued after a ship and a tugboat crashed on Sunday evening...


Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10701 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:42 am to
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The tankers and tugs don't move very fast.


They move a lot faster than they can stop or change direction.

That said, There is a >99% probability one of two causes can be blamed for an accident such as this. Equipment failure/lack of proper equipment or human error.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:58 am to
Some might remember this one, in the same area!

"On Oct. 20, 1976, the worst ferry disaster in the history of the United States occurred on the Mississippi River in St. Charles Parish. Seventy-seven lives were lost. The people of Louisiana will never forget you.

It was 40 degrees Fahrenheit and dark at dawn, without fog, as the 50-year-old George Prince Ferry was making its passageway across the Mississippi River from Destrehan to Luling. The skipper was captain Gene Auletta. Ninety-five people were aboard that morning, most of them young men who worked at the plants on the riverbank.

As the George Prince traveled close to a mile from the East Bank to the West Bank, a 22,000-ton Norwegian tanker, the Frosta, sighted the ferry dangerously close to the front of the ship's bow. Pilot Nicholas Colombo signaled the George Prince several times, but it was too late. A massive collision ensued.

Relatives and friends of those aboard the George Prince anxiously stood vigil on the Mississippi River levee for days, watching the rescue efforts and waiting for news of their loved ones. Hard hats and lunch pails washed ashore on the riverbank. Gov. Edwin Edwards walked through those assembled there, attempting to console the families. President Gerald Ford's personal emissary, Ed Foreman, was also at the disaster site."
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:34 am to
It's nice to read that relic from an era when there were journalistic standards.
Posted by Z Cavaricci
Member since Jun 2020
1740 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:52 am to
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Equipment failure/lack of proper equipment or human error.
Or fog. Which would probably lead to human error.
Posted by justjoe906
Member since Oct 2013
1780 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:02 am to
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the worst ferry disaster in the history of the United States

I worked with 2 men that were on the ferry boat the was ran over. They were in their car sleeping when the ferry was struck. The car went overboard and they were lucky to survive.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
5131 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:14 am to
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Kind of easy to say this shite from a couch with zero knowledge


We aren’t in the Lewis and Clark era
Posted by KajunLass
Member since Apr 2022
348 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:54 am to
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Gov. Edwin Edwards walked through those assembled there, attempting to console the soon-to-be widows.


FIFY

He was always on the make. . . looking for his next lay.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34614 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:23 am to
Ferry boat captain was drunk...
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:37 am to
Human error, malfunctioning equipment, and poor seamanship are immediate thoughts that come to mind.

Transiting waterways can be an arse puckering experience. When fog and squalls roll in you sweat. That happened to me many times, with coming out of Corpus Christi. We were going dead slow ahead passing close to docked ships and little to no visibility.



Ships have licensed officers at all times on the bridge. There are many professionals on board. On tugs you could have the professional journeyman captain, but he sometimes passes the torch to the inexperienced deckhand/mate when things calm down so he can eat, dump, or sleep. This situation on the water is always changing, and when faced with a difficult situation it is often too late to react.

Another incident where I was certain was my last night on Earth was in Korea. We had a contract with US military bases in the Far East to transport fuel to them, loading in S. Korea. The piping system had a major flaw in it, and the chief mate botched the lineup for transfer (he should have verified the lineup with one other person). He forgot to close two valves leading to the IG generator in the focsle. On most ships these are separate systems but I suppose to save money this ship had a combined cargo/IG system. I get called by the captain in the middle of the night to get my arse to the bridge immediately and we are getting kicked off the dock. Waking up from deep sleep, I get up there and the tugs are pulling us off the dock, the captain is screaming on the radio, and the pilot is screaming at everyone. I immediately called the engine room to confirm that they knew we were about to start moving. They were frantic and pissed. We start moving and I find out that we loaded jet fuel into the Focsle, and that space is not intrinsically safe. They were trying to figure out where to trip the breakers. The port wanted us out of the city, and during the transit I was ready for an explosion. We went to anchor just offshore and spent days cleaning up.

That being said I wised up and got out of the industry several years ago. I had so much accountability and could be held criminally liable for a screw up. There are so much complex moving parts (operationally) with the emphasis on efficiency. A person who has the ability to cause such a drastic disaster needs to be compensated for ensuring it does not happen. Think of what the actions of seafarers caused with the Baltimore Bridge, the Skyway bridge, Exxon Valdez, to name a few. Many people died, livelihoods were ruined, and the environmental impacts. These actions cause way further damage and affect many than say, a botched surgery.

Licensed mariners deserve far greater compensation. That industry needs to be reformed.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 8:00 am
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7565 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:26 am to


Sounds like you are Jealous

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