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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:54 am to
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tearing down andrew jackson in nola is different. he was a president. he led the american forces in the battle of 1812 to save the city. Yes he was a slave owner, but in that time, what white man of power wasn't. it was just how history was
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some things need to be changed. i can understand the middelton one for sure

I don't see how you can square those two opinions in your head
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:57 am to
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he led the american forces in the battle of 1812


Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:59 am to
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racist memorial


The memorial is racist? It supports the man's views on race that he held in 1961?

Or does it praise the actual good he did for the country, state, and school?


A line must be drawn somewhere, if not the slippery slope leads to everything being deemed evil/racist to do with this country, which then needs to be torn down...statues, founding fathers, the constitution.

You can not hold historical persons to the sensibilities of today.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:00 pm to
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How about you just stop giving a frick about preserving a really shitty part of our history?


Middleton is a God damned American hero and evolved into a champion for equality. How about we celebrate the fact that a man born in 1889 In fricking MS changed his views
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't see how how can square those two opinions in your head


two different time periods of what was deemed societal norm. when Middelton was at LSU times/ideals were changing. To me that makes the difference.
Posted by bbeck
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:01 pm to
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How about you just stop giving a frick about preserving a really shitty part of our history?
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CaptainPanic

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more fitting username
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:02 pm to
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all of a sudden a bunch of rednecks care about history.


Your playbook is really thin.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:02 pm to
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Nobody cared until the thought of removing a racist memorial was expressed and now all of a sudden a bunch of rednecks care about history.


It’s not a racist memorial. It’s a library.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:03 pm to
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two different time periods of what was deemed societal norm. when Middelton was at LSU times/ideals were changing. To me that makes the difference.



Two distinguished military men who fought for their country.

One owned other human beings.

One said some not so nice things about other human beings.

You want to keep option A.

That is completely devoid of logic.
Posted by bbeck
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Nobody gives a shite what the LSU library is called.

My god the irony
Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:04 pm to
we are talking about 100 years of difference in existence. that makes the difference imo
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:05 pm to
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You can not hold historical persons to the sensibilities of today.
Agreed, but you also don't need to idolize them.

Again, NOBODY gave a shite about the majority of these memorials until POCs started expressing their distaste for it. The majority of these rednecks, like High C, aren't trying to preserve history. They are just uppity because the scary black man is fiddling with their views of white supremacy.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:05 pm to
Your opinion has zero logical foundation.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:08 pm to


makes sense to me
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Agreed, but you also don't need to idolize them.

Again, NOBODY gave a shite about the majority of these memorials until POCs started expressing their distaste for it. The majority of these rednecks, like High C, aren't trying to preserve history. They are just uppity because the scary black man is fiddling with their views of white supremacy.


We are not discussing Confederate Monuments in this case. We are discussing an American war hero from two World Wars and someone who eventually helped lead changes in race relations in this state.

Obviously, arguments for taking down Confederate Monuments can be made from a couple of different angles.

This is not that. A line must be drawn.
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted by RougeDawg
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:12 pm to
LSU Fighting Nutria
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:12 pm to
It is no longer about removing racism. It is about power and the ability to change everything just because they want to. Like we say.... you give them an inch.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:13 pm to
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They are just uppity because the scary black man is fiddling with their views of white supremacy.


You truly believe this, don’t you?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:13 pm to
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makes sense to me

You must be a woman
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