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re: Trump announces that US has bombed multiple Iranian nuclear sites
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:22 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:22 pm to WestCoastAg
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Trump is insinuating that Fordow has been completely destroyed
That would be insane if true
Probably too early for any high-quality battle damage assessment. Frankly, it is unlikely we ever know the exact extent of the damage unless there are inspectors on the ground and even that could take a very long time even if they had unfettered access.
I am cautiously optimistic but without stripping the entire mountain from the face of the Earth there is no way to tell right now.
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:23 pm to jcaz
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We made our strike, we now go into defense mode. Israel handles it from here.
Most of you have no geopolitical or military knowledge.
Posted shortly after the breaking being that the Navy has begun strikes with Tomahawks to support the original mission.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:23 pm to Tyga Woods
quote:they can't even strike Israel with any frequency but hey, they're a threat to America.
They’re flying jets from the 80’s but we’re supposed to believe they have hypersonic missiles
It's a fricking joke
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
No word about the Tom Cruise led airstrike that followed?
At least now we know who the fifth generation fighters were from.
At least now we know who the fifth generation fighters were from.
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to escatawpabuckeye
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So what happens if a us base in Kuwait or Syria gets nailed by an Iranian hypersonic missle?
You don't think we have assets airborne along with a vast network of ship and land based air defense? Or that personnel are hunkered down and ready in the event they start launching?
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Then don’t bitch about any government spending or foreign policy anymore.
You cant frick the world for 50 years and then walk away when the children you made decide they are going to frick the world.
Sorry the US's shitty decisions to become a world power have come back home to roost, but this is the check we wrote.
We can’t change anything. We did things that led to where we are now, therefore we have to keep spending and doing.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to Pettifogger
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But by all means, explain how this at all resembles Afghanistan
Let me throw it back to you: tell me one time in the past 70 years that an American installs a government and it works out well for American interests in the long term.
Hell, we are only dealing with this because of us trying it with Iran.
But to answer the question: lots of money and lives spent to really change nothing.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to Scruffy
quote:Wrong. Most of us are not about supporting any country’s citizens. End of story.
everyone in here will bitch and moan about taking in
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to Pettifogger
I don’t think this board grasps how weakened Iran is.
Since the October 2023 Hamas attack on Israel, the Israelis have basically brought Hamas and Hezbollah to their knees. Those are the 2 goon groups Iran uses for its dirty work. Iran’s proxies are a shell of what they were.
Israel’s success since 2023 made this a perfect time to end the Iranian nuke program
Since the October 2023 Hamas attack on Israel, the Israelis have basically brought Hamas and Hezbollah to their knees. Those are the 2 goon groups Iran uses for its dirty work. Iran’s proxies are a shell of what they were.
Israel’s success since 2023 made this a perfect time to end the Iranian nuke program
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:24 pm to Bama Bird
I think the question is whether Iran even can "do shite." Their proxies are neutered, they can lob ballistic missiles at US interests but we've had a couple of weeks of warning.
Where this gets dicey, IMO, is:
A) when Israel kills Khameini
B) if/when reports pop up that we didn't eliminate the threat and Iran is going to supply material to a rogue actor, etc. True or not, this is the type of pretense I could envision drawing us into a broader conflict.
Where this gets dicey, IMO, is:
A) when Israel kills Khameini
B) if/when reports pop up that we didn't eliminate the threat and Iran is going to supply material to a rogue actor, etc. True or not, this is the type of pretense I could envision drawing us into a broader conflict.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:25 pm to Volvagia
quote:
Let me throw it back to you: tell me one time in the past 70 years that an American installs a government and it works out well for American interests in the long term.
The regime is still there. Khameini still alive. For now.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:26 pm to TT9
Crazy how it was our duty as a world super power and it was incredibly urgent and necessary but we didn’t hear or do shite about it until Israel beckoned
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:26 pm to tigergirl10
quote:Well, too fricking bad.
Wrong. Most of us are not about supporting any country’s citizens. End of story.
The refugees won’t go to Russia or China.
They will go to Europe, Canada, or the USA.
Then, 6 months from now, we will have threads on here bitching about how those countries are being “overrun by Muslims”.
Or, and I hope this isn’t the case, we will fricking nation build again.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:26 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:exactly!!!
Crazy how it was our duty as a world super power and it was incredibly urgent and necessary but we didn’t hear or do shite about it until Israel beckoned
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm to forkedintheroad
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:Oh yes, because Congress is so wonderful. Nut jobs completely out of touch with reality on both sides.
Congress needs to step up and reclaim its power
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm to Scruffy
quote:what if there aren't any?
The refugees
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yeah look, I'm pretty sober minded about Israeli influence, the risk of quagmire, all that stuff.
I'm not rah rah on this.
But this was THE TIME (if ever) to make this move, which the US has talked about for decades. Israel likely knew that it would have a strong chance to overcome US hesitancy if they crushed Iran's ability to broaden this conflict. I think that's what happened.
It handed Trump a legacy item on a silver platter with the best possible pitch for how this won't end up with typical Middle East blowback for US intervention. I think it was just too much for Trump to pass up, and I think, candidly it would be too much for any POTUS of either party to pass up.
I'm not rah rah on this.
But this was THE TIME (if ever) to make this move, which the US has talked about for decades. Israel likely knew that it would have a strong chance to overcome US hesitancy if they crushed Iran's ability to broaden this conflict. I think that's what happened.
It handed Trump a legacy item on a silver platter with the best possible pitch for how this won't end up with typical Middle East blowback for US intervention. I think it was just too much for Trump to pass up, and I think, candidly it would be too much for any POTUS of either party to pass up.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:29 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Then don’t bitch about any government spending or foreign policy anymore.
We can’t change anything. We did things that led to where we are now, therefore we have to keep spending and doing.
Post nut clarity.
Our society has benefited from gun boat diplomacy, but now are so soft we cant back it up.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:29 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Yea, just like there weren’t any with Syria.
what if there aren't any?
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