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re: True Story: From Mother's Hospital at UAB, The Dark Side of Medicine

Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:58 pm to
Read the article
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89165 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:59 pm to
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You bringing some Shiners?


hell yezz! just about to get into them right now
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78335 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Doctors are like mechanics now days.

They can tell you, you need this or that.

And you have no idea if they are just trying to make more money and lying or if you really need it.

In other words they got you by the balls.
Don't worry, the insurance companies will deny unnecessary and sometimes necessary procedures.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1129 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:15 pm to
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She caught an infection, plus a blood clot, and internal bleeding, and after the latest surgery, ended up in the ICU where she caught "ICU Delirium", which apparently is common. We were unaware of this possibility, and she was on another planet for a couple of days.


So would you have continued with the surgery if you would have know this was a possibility?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26000 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:21 pm to
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The Dark Side of Medicine



See COVID and the dumbass “sCIenCE” bros
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2695 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:22 pm to
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He is a psychiatrist. What did you expect?


Yep.

Most chefs are fat. Most psychiatrists are nutty moonbats.

Comes with the territory. I’ve worked ICU almost 29 years, never met a psych MD who wasn’t weird.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120368 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:25 pm to
I am convinced there are two goals in the medical world.

- Find as many things as possible you might need, that they can charge your insurance for.

- Put you on as much prescribed drugs as possible.

My mom was diagnosed with ALS a few months ago. By the time they found out, the progression of it was at the point she needed assistance walking, a lot of her muscle deteriorated, etc. There are things available that slow down the progression, which she was prescribed. Then she was contacted and told there is another type of medicine which she was prescribed. When she had to get that one refilled again she wasn't able to because it cost a lot and her insurance wasn't going to pay for it.

She had home health nurses come to her house and there is always some bullshite she is given that is supposed to do this or that and it ends up being something that doesn't even work. This past week she had an appointment for something not medical related. The home health nurse called her at 930PM the night before and told her she would be by there at a certain time, in which she was told that my mom wasn't going to be available.

This bitch says "well that's the time I am available, I am not sure when I will be able to come by again". Bitch don't call 17 hours before you planned on coming then get made because you have to change your scheduled because you just assume everyone you go see will always be around waiting for you.

I might be wrong and I am sure there will be some people challenge me on this, but it seems like home health is more about what the company can charge insurances for than actually providing care. I mean, I know every company's goal is to make as much as possible, but these companies let their nurses make their own schedules. They don't give a frick as long as they can charge for each visit and anything that the patient might "need".

Its all a big fricking scam. There are some places that operate better than others in which patients don't have to deal with as much bullshite, but it all comes down to what they can charge your insurance for.. And if it turns out its in the best interest of the patient that's good, but these places are pretty much like drug dealers. You have those at the bottom who just know that they have a job and will be getting paid, but couldn't even tell you what those at the top even look like.

Those at the top don't give a frick about those at the bottom because they can always replace them with someone else. They just need them to go in the homes and if there is an opportunity to give the patient any type of product that can be charged to their insurance, give it to them.

At the end of the day its all just a bunch of bullshite.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4989 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Do doctors get kickbacks from the drug companies if the prescribe a certain amount of drugs?

No.

That is illegal.
Are the pharma reps still smokeshow OT 10s? Or are those days gone too?
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3583 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Doctors should teach nutrition not pharmaceutical addiction.
go to a nutritionist if you want nutrition. you dont seem to understand what a dr is trained to do.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Yeah, I’m sure your dumbass is going to fight someone at work

We don't have security, so I've had to physically escort people off the property twice. Most sit down and shut up at the first sign of resistance. Glad we have hospitalist now and don't get unassigned patients We have to put up with a lot of shite people never see.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12227 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Comes with the territory. I’ve worked ICU almost 29 years, never met a psych MD who wasn’t weird.
My experience with family is that psychiatrists (and most mental health professionals) with a standalone private practice are far superior to those working in an acute hospital or other institutional setting. I'm sure there is some overlap, though, as I don't fully understand the business relationships between doctors and hospitals.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:13 pm to
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So would you have continued with the surgery if you would have know this was a possibility?


Of course.

Just would have been nice to know that this is an apparently common occurrence.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32791 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:17 pm to
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From Mother's Hospital at UAB

Thought this was about to be a TulaneLSU thread
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1129 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:31 pm to
What would change if that occurred? You can’t catch the ICU delirium if they aren’t in the ICU.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31349 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:31 pm to
Sad as it is, you have to be your own advocate with medicine unless you are fortunate to have an awesome doctor.

After our second kid, my wife developed an infection in her blood. She couldn’t walk, and my MiL took her to the emergency room at midnight. ER doctor wanted to do a blood transfusion. Wife was shocked by this and asking a ton of questions to which she got no answers. She told the ER doctor she was going to call her OB and the doc got shitty with her and really belittled her. Her OB answered the phone, she told him what was going on, and he asked her to hand the ER doctor her phone and chewed his arse. Basically it was something to do with her PCOS and uterus and the transfusion was not only pointless but insanely risky.

He is an awesome doc and a great advocate for her. Hes delivered both of our children and done multiple surgeries on my wife’s lady problems. I’m very grateful for him.
Posted by CodeName1
Member since Mar 2021
226 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:50 pm to
What was wrong with her hip to dictate 5 surgeries in that timeframe?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:01 pm to
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What was wrong with her hip to dictate 5 surgeries in that timeframe?


Long story kinda short:
When she was 18, really bad car accident in Hammond. She was in a coma, her bro was in a body cast. She broke her hip.

When she was 38, a new artificial hip was given.

When she was 58, a that hip was replaced.

Recently, her hip socket deteriorated, and a specialist in Bham (her regular doctor in foley recommended) sent off for a 3D printed implant. This took months. First surgery took place 11/22. Got home, then on Thanksgiving she stepped wrong, hip fell out.

Then another surgery, and she was to be on bed rest at our place. While on bed rest, everything we thought went well. We head up to see doc on like 12/20 for follow up, and somehow hip was dislocated, again.

So he did another surgery, and then she came home. Same thing happened later, so he did another one with like concrete. Then, it happened again, so he added concrete plus a constrainer band. If it falls out again (it won’t), then basically she’ll need a whole new hip structure.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133621 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:08 pm to
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asked, in an unpolite manner, if there was in case in which they would not have prescribed my mother psychotropic drugs. They stammered, and they stammered, and I told him to GTFO. I am incredulous that these certified professionals first and only reaction/cure is drugs. It was a disgusting experience.




Are you also surprised when you got to a bar and the barkeep recommends booze?
Posted by CodeName1
Member since Mar 2021
226 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:14 pm to
Wow, that’s quite a story. Definitely rare.
Is Siegel her Ortho?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29562 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:22 pm to
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My wife recommended she speak with someone due to her emotions, but docs didn’t recommend it.

A lot of times psychiatric stuff is deferred to the outpatient setting. They probably want to get her medically stabilized first. It makes no sense to do a non emergent psych eval on a patient who isn’t at baseline due to a medical problem (delirium, which can wax and wane). You would have to do the whole evaluation all over again once she recovers anyway. Just wanted to give you some context to what I’ve seen during inpatient stays.

Doc sounds like an odd bird but I don’t think they did anything wrong. If the medicine team consulted the psychiatry team every time a patient felt sad or tired from being in the hospital the psychiatrists would never get to the patients with psychiatric emergencies.
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