re: True or false: Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers

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Where there are multiple witnesses or irrefutable video evidence

This is the only thing that will stop shootings in this country

True or false


I say true, hang ‘em high

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The one sure way to stop the state's execution of blatantly guilty criminals and those less blatantly guilty is to execute them on the public square and televise it. After a couple of times the outcry would be so great that the death penalty would be untenable in the United States. I understand that it seems like it would be gratifying to watch a blatantly guilty criminal get their just deserts...the reality is that only a severely damaged person would get anything other than repulsion from the experience. This is back up by data of people who have witnessed multiple executions, even family members of the victims....almost no one wants to see it a second time. Those who do want to are damaged themselves...it is not normal for humans to watch idly by while anothe human suffers pain. This is why executions are done in private today, folks won't tolerate it long unless they can pretend it isn't happening....

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The death penalty is a 100 percent deterrent for that particular person. They will never kill again, which should be the goal. We need to execute about 1,000 times more people than we currently do in a much more timely manner.

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There have been about 1500 people executed since the death penalty was reinstated. Your number would make that 1.55 Million people. There have been about 9000 sentenced to death. Your "1000 times more" would have required significantly more capital crimes and resulting convictions to achieve. How that would be good for society is beyond even the most demented imagination.

A little over 2% of those 9000 people have been released from death row because they were not guilty of the crime they were convicted of and sentenced to die for. Thats 190 lives. That number would be 31,000 people wrongfully convicted and executed since 1976 had we done 1000 more than we did. 31,000 innocent people put to death because the state fricked up. Seriously, in a civilized society one innocent person put to death by the state is infinitely too many....how anyone can mistrust the government at all but trust it to get executing criminals right when the proof is in the pudding that at least 2% of the time the state fricks up is beyond me. It is not logical, it is purely emotional.

They don’t deserve the 8th Amendment. Line ‘em up and do away with them. A few of these might encourage some reflection to make better choices.

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I don't know whether televising executions would deter violent crime, but I do know that a lot of those who would tune in are rather deviant. It takes a "special" kind of person to willingly take time out of their day to watch the execution related to a crime in which they were not personally affected.

Public executions - but not televised? Possibly. I believe that public executions performed at the center of town or some central gathering point could have some effect. People would see it LIVE and in person. Even if you turn away, there is no escaping the reality of it.

Furthermore, executions should be carried out by one of two methods: hanging by the neck until dead, or firing squad. None of this "softly go to sleep" BS. (I may be agreeable to a third method of Old Testament stoning if the offense is heinous enough to warrant it.)

You also mentioned irrefutable video evidence. With the way things are going and the fact that "deep fake" video is getting extremely realistic and difficult to determine from an authentic video, I'm not so sure I'd want to go that route.

But, as has already been stated in this thread, there are those individuals who are of such a decrepit mind that no threat of punishment will deter them from committing acts of violence upon another person. These people don't believe they will be caught, and when they are caught they aren't sorry for the act committed, but rather are sorry they got caught and must face the consequences.

Yes, hang 'em high, but there's no need to televise it.

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I am opposed to the dealt penalty based on the knowledge that the state is incapable of being correct even most of the time, let alone every time, and if you are going to kill someone in the name of justice you best be right are you are no better morally than the criminal you thought you were executing.

That said I think if we are going to execute folks in this country it should be done publicly and not behind closed doors where the general public can pretend like it is not happening. Doing it in public would not only make it EXTREMELY unpopular with most people, other than the small number of mentally disturbed people who would like to see it, it would make it untenable for politicians to support...thus the barbaric practice would be resigned to the dust bin of history where barbarism should reside....

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Sounds extremely stupid to be honest

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It is extremely stupid. It’s what mouthbreathers resort to. We already know how to drastically reduce violent crimes. We proved it in the 80’s. You surge police and go after vagrants and delinquents. It’s simple, easy, and foolproof.

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Why anyone would have wet dreams about replicating that in the US is seriously cause for concern...

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Just look at it as an easy way to weed out the low IQ posters.

Not sure a fan of public as that will devolve to the past where it became a carnival and mostly generated $$$$ for just a few high up.

I favor death penalty for 3 types (all know to be guilty, no doubt)

#1 Serial killers / mass murders (no publicity, that's what they want)
#2 Drug kingpins (like top of the food chain cartel dudes)
#3 White collar Wall Street thieves (no top dog from 2008 went to jail but we will pay for them for ages now)

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Been saying these should be offered via pay per view for years. Think they'd be highly popular.

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I would bet the first one might draw a small audience. The second one would consist of a very small number of truly disturbed individuals.

There have been public executions of humans readily available to the general public. The executions of James Foley and Daniel Pearl come to mind, unfortunately. Both were "convicted" of crimes by state actors and summarily executed. Anyone who has had the grave misfortune to have seen either or both videos and relishes the idea of seeing similar videos is sick and should seriously seek immediate professional help

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There are many tried and true ways to prevent crime but the most important method is for prevention to be of interest in the first place...unfortunately punishment is sexy, prevention is boring.

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It’s no different than disaster preparation. If you nip the problem in the bud, some a-hole somewhere will convince the unwashed masses that all the money spent preparing was wasted, because look, nothing bad happened. Even if you can show statistics on reduced crime, the same a-hole will put some crying anecdote in front of everyone to contradict you. There’s no money in the cure; the money’s in the medicine, so to speak.

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They don’t deserve the 8th Amendment. Line ‘em up and do away with them. A few of these might encourage some reflection to make better choices.

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Then why don't you and all the other virtue signaling posters lead the charge to repeal it instead of regurgitating these ill-conceived reactionary notions.