re: Trending video about Confederate Romanticism in the South

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Generalize much.

Keep in mind the people who like the rebel flag are also members of the kkk.

See how stupid that is?

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SO you are incapable of having rational conversations without wetting yourself?

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Wars aren't started over single issues.

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There is always a quintessential issue. Slavery was that issue with the Civil War. It's not even up for debate--the failed secessionists said as much.

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So this is called a false equivalency. 

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That actually wasn't a false equivalency at all. I don't think you understand how to apply that turn of phrase correctly.

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The right to govern themselves as they see fit. And the right to not have states that benefit from slavery via the cotton trade, tell states that use slavery what to do. It was pure hypocrisy. 

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These are the mental gymnastics I'm talking about.

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However, we are able to talk about it without clutching our pearls because someone is being rational about the institution of slavery and talking about it without feelings. 

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More mental gymnastics. The problem is you can't deal with anyone denigrating the confederate cause because you're overly emotionally invested in playing goalie for a movement that literally tried to break up the USA. Not figuratively. LITERALLY. Over their desire to continue powering their economy with chattel slavery. That's what you're defending.

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Slavery is probably one of the most emotional issues this country has ever had to confront.

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And thus, conversations about it get nowhere when people can't talk calmly and rationally about it. Do you think that's a good thing?

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The entire institution of slavery is irrational. There is no way to have a rational discussion on something like slavery if its very existence is irrational.

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If you are smart, you can have a rational conversation about it. It's not hard to not get offended by words.

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You have a problem with someone virtue signaling the fact that slavery is bad?

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I do, when those same people can't look at all of the facets of slavery, and talk rationally about it without saying, "you weren't mad enough about slavery...RACIST!"

That's called a temper tantrum. If i wanted to have a conversation with my 3 year old, i would have stayed home today.

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If you are smart, you can have a rational conversation about it. It's not hard to not get offended by words.

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In your mind, "rational conversation" means calling anyone who decries the practice or the cause to keep it in place "too emotional."

Come on

Added for dramatic affect jackass. Figured some triggered pussy would latch on to that

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The entire institution of slavery is irrational. There is no way to have a rational discussion on something like slavery if its very existence is irrational.

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no shite?everyone knows this...that's why it no longer exist here in the USA.but 150-200 yrs. ago, it was a common practice.another fact that is overlooked is that these slaves weren't bribed or tricked into coming here,they were sold by there own...so where is the africa hate?nah...easier to blame the current day white man for everything in history that went wrong.

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There is always a quintessential issue. Slavery was that issue with the Civil War.

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While i agree that slavery was an issue, it wasn't the only issue. The people living in the south, that didn't own slaves, nor benefited from the proliferation of slavery, did not see this as a war on slavery, they saw it as a war against the south. This is a time when state pride was far greater than country pride. So an outsider (a different state) telling another state they can't do something, was seen as an insult, especially considering the North benefited from slavery. Cotton was a big industry then, and the North did not grow cotton as well as the south did, thus many of their business dealings included importing cotton from the southern states. Think of a different state as a different country, in those days. That was the mindset back then. Your state was your sovereign more than your country was, despite the colonies banding together during the Revolution, which was some 80 years prior.

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That actually wasn't a false equivalency at all. I don't think you understand how to apply that turn of phrase correctly.

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It actually was. I simply stated that slavery could be talked about without emotion clouding the issue. Napolean then alluded that i must think slavery is fine and dandy because i'm capable of rational discussion.

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These are the mental gymnastics I'm talking about.

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No, this is the rational discussion. Again, remove emotion.

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The problem is you can't deal with anyone denigrating the confederate cause because you're overly emotionally invested in playing goalie for a movement that literally tried to break up the USA. Not figuratively.

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Pump the brakes there, Sally. First, this isn't 3rd grade. I called you people out as overly emotional and your response is essentially, "I know you are but what am I?" Grow up. Second, i never said i was a confederate sympathizer or whatever. My family didn't arrive to Louisiana until after the Civil War. I don't have any emotional attachments to this argument. Thus, my challenge to those that do.

You realize, no one has yet tried to have a discussion about slavery on any of the issues, but you've all been quick to get emotionally invested over me simply saying "you don't have to act like children when discussing slavery".

You're first response was the first inkling of someone attempting to have a discussion. But that quickly devolved.

I can rationalize. But what is rational here. I do not find human ownership to be rational.
The point was, people are trying to remove southern pride and admiration for the Confederacy from slavery.

The confederacy was founded on slavery, a point you cannot refute. Ado instead you attack me, I'm emotional, im Abigail?(whatever the frick that was)
Though you know it's the truth. You know the South left the union because the wanted above all else the right to keep slaves.

Dude. There are no positives of the act. You can maybe argue the descendants of slaves are better off than most Africans, but that doesn't excuse the act of slavery. I mean the Exodous is an integral part of Abrahamic history, and that still didn't excuse the act of slavery then.

You want to be rational?
In what sense?
Acting like you are the rational one then using depression era insults doesn't make you look rational, it makes you look hypocritical.

Wait a second, the south still had slavery? This changes everything, I've got some serious thinking to do.....