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re: Trash bags of undelivered mail found at Pittsburgh postal worker’s home

Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:24 pm to
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How can you claim significant instances of fraud before it happens?


People are claiming risk of fraud, not specific instances

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
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People are claiming risk of fraud, not specific instances


Some people are, but this was your statement in one of your posts.

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When USPS is the middleman for 30% of the nation's votes, there will be significant fraud.
Posted by Jizzy08
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:32 pm to
I can't wrap my mind around voter fraud via mail as it pertains to whom has the biggest advantage.

I look at the 2016 county by state colors and if anything, it's a lot easier to suppress registered Dem votes in rural America than it would be Metropolis suppression of Republican. Even if each tried - if anything - it may balance out. Who the heck knows.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175781 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:38 pm to
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The Spleen



I was offering specifics on why there is a very real and legit concern

voter fraud does take place


don't mistake me for a trump apologist I know he's not a conservative he's only a convenient Republican in the last 5 years

but the mass mailing of mail-in ballot applications does increase the likelihood of fraud even if its just on the local level with local campaigns
City Council race , county races , congressional races fraud is unlikely to affect the outcome of a federal election but it can very likely affect local elections and it's the same votes

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35371 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:41 pm to
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There’s no way anyone can genuinely say with a straight face that they trust the postal service.
Yet, somehow dems does it every day.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:42 pm to
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I was offering specifics on why there is a very real and legit concern

voter fraud does take place


I know. I agree there are concerns with voter fraud, and that voter fraud happens. The claim someone else made was there WILL be significant fraud in this upcoming election. I don't think any state that didn't already have mail-in voting implemented it for this election. Some have loosened rules on absentee voting, and some have extended time to count an expected increase in absentee and mailed ballots. And the states that already had it have safeguards in place to reduce the risk of fraud happening.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 5:42 pm to
look we agree chris is a piece of shite,,,that's all that matters
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:00 pm to
Ultra moderate Sao has spoken. Let’s shut this thread down.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:12 pm to

You can counter if you like. I live on a 78% Red turnout Texas county. Most surrounding me are the same. Mail suppression isn't what I would call an issue. What do you think?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:20 pm to
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I live on a 78% Red turnout Texas county. Most surrounding me are the same. Mail suppression isn't what I would call an issue.


Oh ok. I forgot the entire country votes according to Sao's county.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:21 pm to
I live in Baton Rouge and wouldn’t trust the vote around here if every voter wore a body cam
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:24 pm to
Scroll up. You'll clearly see a little more re: my statement. County maps by state exist for 2016.

Further, we all should know where/who is a battleground for the electoral college by now. LA and TX aren't in play there. So, if mail fraud sees an uptick, it will be easily sniffed out.

This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:25 pm to
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battleground for the electoral college by now. LA and TX aren't in play there.



Some recent polling shows TX may be.

I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175781 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:26 pm to
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Some recent polling shows TX may be.

its not
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:28 pm to
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live in Baton Rouge and wouldn’t trust the vote around here if every voter wore a body cam


Did you feel the same in the 90s and 2000s? We've seen a 2 term Dem, 2 Term Rep, 2 term Dem and now on the precipice of a 2 term Rep.

If anything, don't worry so much about LA presidential results and focus on down ballot. That's what truly matters anyway.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30245 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:30 pm to
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Never had an issue the last 10 years and billions of documents sent via USPS.


I've had 2 stamps in my wallet that I've worn the ink off of them. That's how much mail I send out.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:31 pm to
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Some recent polling shows TX may be.


That's more of a Facebook mom and pop post thing than reality. Texas isn't Blue. It's all in their head.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:31 pm to
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and focus on down ballot

That’s where the shenanigans will happen and why I’m worried baw
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48463 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:31 pm to
I probably haven't mailed an envelope in 4-5 years.
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