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re: Transcripts of Cockpit Voice Recorders During Plane Crashes
Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:18 am to NastyTiger
Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:18 am to NastyTiger
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At least they played some music for us while we found out what was up the the helicopter.
That was actually that woman's second time to crash in a news helicopter.
She died this time.
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:30 am to yurintroubl
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He finally got in the right headspace to get on an airplane again about 3 years ago.
Why not get on a boat to go home?
Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:36 am to jmarto1
He was obviously an idiot.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:38 am to Sparkplug#1
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:31 am to barry
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I knew the technical reasons for the air france crash but never read the transcripts. Holy hell what a bunch of morons.
The one guy who was pulling back on the stick the whole time was the biggest culprit, and the least experienced of the three.
I've read up on this crash quite a bit and the pilots definitely were getting crazy info back from the airplane.
The most insidious part was when the pilot would push forward the stick and lower the nose (the right thing) the stall warning would come back on because the aircrafts computer was in a "I give up" mode and shut off all the warnings.
So, with the exception of an ice clogged airspeed sensor they flew a perfectly good airplane into the ocean.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:00 am to barry
Just curious, do the passengers on the Air France crash know what's going on? If the pilots don't know if they are going up or down, do the passengers since or feel something isn't right?
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:14 am to monsterballads
I've read and listened to some of the 9/11 recordings. Do pilots nowadays keep cockpit locked because of that? Do yall think people could still hijack a plane in America or are we on to high alert and the moment some Muslims run up front would all the passengers grab them before they even got to the pilots?
Eta: Also, if pilots were overcome and killed but passengers overtook hijackers is it even possible for average Joe to land a plane with help of air traffic controllers?
Eta: Also, if pilots were overcome and killed but passengers overtook hijackers is it even possible for average Joe to land a plane with help of air traffic controllers?
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:21 am to Tubedog13
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Just curious, do the passengers on the Air France crash know what's going on? If the pilots don't know if they are going up or down, do the passengers since or feel something isn't right?
There's some articles about that out there. Most say the plane would have been shuddering pretty badly due to being in an aerodynamic stall. There was some pretty bad turbulence also. The recorders showed some evidence of the plane rolling left and right as it fell in the stall.
Most articles do say there was probably not a sensation of falling but it is likely they would know something was wrong and it was not a good situation.
Some say the plane held up amazingly well in the air as those same maneuvers could tear apart other aircraft.
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This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 11:55 am
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:04 pm to jmarto1
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Why not get on a boat to go home?
He had been in beyond a rut that he had been digging himself into for a better part of 20 years... He went from being a free-spirited partying traveling musician to a very stationary partying bartender lifer. Alcohol and who knows what reached critical mass... Sometimes there's no real reason for not getting someewhere. 3rd time in rehab finally took. He booked the flight on the 1-year anniversary of getting sober.
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He was obviously an idiot.
You're the idiot, fricktard. What part of my post made you think you should even comment on the situation.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:08 pm to Volvagia
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think the worst one is after trying thing after thing, calmly saying: "That's it....I'm dead.
Like this one:
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02:07:47 --: Audio tone of autopilot disconnection warning (duration 2.3 sec) (AOA warning might disconnect A/P automatically or it could be F/O pushed yoke down causing A/P disconnect)
02:07:49 CAP: frick! What are you doing!
02:07:51 CAP: Speed!
02:07:52 ??: …
02:07:53 CAP: … frick, push it up! (throttles)
02:07:53 F/O: Stop! Stop! Where! Where!
02:07:55 CAP: Stop! Stop! Stop! (said in patter)
02:07:55 NAV: This way, this way, this way.
02:07:57 CAP: We’re recovering!
02:07:58 NAV: Easy, make it easy, easy!
02:07:59 F/O: Lets to the right!
02:08:01 --: Audio tone of Radio-altitude alert (duration 4 sec) and audio alert tone of AOA (remaining to the end of recording)
02:08:02 ??: Power! Add thrust!
02:08:05 ??: Power!
02:08:06 F/E: … got it!
02:08:08 ??: Add thrust!
02:08:09 F/O: Take off power! Oh my God!
02:08:10 F/E: Take off power set
02:08:11 ??: That’s all guys! frick
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:55 pm to PepaSpray
fricking Russians
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:59 pm to AndyCBR
It said the guy was pulling in the stick the whole time. I thought it was because in these modern planes if you pull in the stick you will stay in a climb but the stick will move back to center.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:11 pm to Bojangles
I've been watching "Air Crash investigations" on youtube.
Alot of these flights are on there, pretty interesting stuff.
Alot of these flights are on there, pretty interesting stuff.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:12 pm to TN_Tigers
Not sure if this was on the list, but that Turkish airliner that blew a hole and sucked the flight attendant out must've been horrific.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:15 pm to Janky
"Retard" means "pull the throttles back to idle." Retard and advance are two fancy ways of saying pull the throttles back and push them forwards, respectively.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:31 pm to barry
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It said the guy was pulling in the stick the whole time. I thought it was because in these modern planes if you pull in the stick you will stay in a climb but the stick will move back to center.
The aircrafts computer had already "given up" and gave full control back to the pilots (Alternate law on an Airbus) based on the faulty sensor data from the clogged pitot tube.
What's crazy is the right hand pilot was pulling up most of the time even though the left hand pilot was trying to push down some of the time. I think the Airbus "averages" the inputs from both controls if that happens.
Based on the transcript it appears the senior pilot figured it out toward the end but by then it was too late.
It's still hard to believe they didn't believe the altimeter as they were dropping like a stone. But then again I think they were in a situation where they didn't know what to believe from the planes instruments.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:08 pm to Bojangles
That Phoenix news helicopter crash in 2007 was some scary shite, especially since the one chopper was live on air when it crashed and you can hear the crew screaming to their death. Someone actually made a simulation of what happened. I'm sure this changed the rules, at least unwritten ones about high speed chases being shot live on TV.
CRASH LIVE ON TV
CRASH ANIMATION
CRASH LIVE ON TV
CRASH ANIMATION
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:01 pm to jerseyfla
I'm going to choose to not watch that before bed
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:20 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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I'm going to choose to not watch that before bed
And I'm way too high. Don't want to get freaked the frick out.
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