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re: Toyota Land Cruiser discontinued after 2021
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:54 pm to Concernednewguy7
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:54 pm to Concernednewguy7
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Land cruiser:
That's a Land Cruiser with heavy and expensive modifications.
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Yukon:
And an "on road" spec previous generation Yukon Denali without any modifications or even an off road package.
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:09 pm to NoBoDawg
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LC’s are the best overlanding vehicles ever made.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:10 pm to Dragula
Uhhh, prove me wrong. Whatcha got?
If you say anything made my FCA...you’re a moron
If you say anything made my FCA...you’re a moron
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:13 pm to goofball
Is this joke?!
That thing is godawful! Get out with that wet garbage
That thing is godawful! Get out with that wet garbage
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:14 pm to NoBoDawg
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LC’s are the best overlanding vehicles ever made.
That's just not true anymore of the LC they sell in America. Nothing that big is going to be an overland vehicle without significant changes to the suspension, wheels, tires, axles, and bodywork.
I love the LC, but overlanding was clearly not a priority when designing the latest versions.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:15 pm to NoBoDawg
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If you say anything made my FCA...you’re a moron
More off road miles are driven in Wranglers than almost anything out there. There's extensive aftermarket support, and it's far more appropriately sized than the Land Cruiser.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:16 pm to NoBoDawg
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Uhhh, prove me wrong. Whatcha got?
If you say anything made my FCA...you’re a moron
I don't think you understand what overlanding actually is.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:17 pm to dewster
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the LC they sell in America.
I didn’t say in the States. There are cheaper, more utilitarian LC’s sold elsewhere.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:23 pm to goofball
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don't think you understand what overlanding actually is.
Actually, I don’t think you do....there’s a big difference between Overlanding & Off-Roading/Rock crawling.
The LC’s storied history is right up there with Land Rover, but modern Rover’s aren’t reliable.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:23 pm to NoBoDawg
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I didn’t say in the States. There are cheaper, more utilitarian LC’s sold elsewhere.
Ah okay. Yeah I was wondering why so many were mourning the loss of the current gen "Americanized" Land Cruiser. It's basically a Z71 Tahoe or Suburban. It's often driven by the same type of people too.
What I'd really like is the previous gen Defender (UK Market). They rusted like crazy, but they were simple enough that you could fix with fairly basic tools. Similar to a 70 series Toyota Land Cruiser. American safety regulations make those trucks impossible to buy over here.
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The LC’s storied history is right up there with Land Rover, but modern Rover’s aren’t reliable.
It's history. Those trucks that built that reputation haven't been available in the US for a long, long time. Those aren't being lost in 2021, they were lost decades back.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:29 pm to RedFoxx
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ut then again Land Cruiser enthusiasts would balk at Range Rover reliability.
If you want reliability a six figure SUV is probably a poor choice.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:41 pm to Robin Masters
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If you want reliability a six figure SUV is probably a poor choice.
Well that’s a dumb statement...why?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:42 pm to NoBoDawg
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I didn’t say in the States. There are cheaper, more utilitarian LC’s sold elsewhere.
70 Series is Badass
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:43 pm to NoBoDawg
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That thing is godawful! Get out with that wet garbage
That's what the Land Cruiser has become in the states.
We don't get the 70 series like they do in the Middle East.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:47 pm to goofball
Any LC is far better than that GM AT4 Yukon turd.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:51 pm to dewster
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Ah okay. Yeah I was wondering why so many were mourning the loss of the current gen "Americanized" Land Cruiser. It's basically a Z71 Tahoe or Suburban. It's often driven by the same type of people too.
Ok...
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It's history. Those trucks that built that reputation haven't been available in the US for a long, long time. Those aren't being lost in 2021, they were lost decades back.
200 Series MOAB Hill Climb
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:12 pm to madmaxvol
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200 Series MOAB Hill Climb
Those are highly modified Land Cruisers.
A Jeep, 4Runner, Colorado ZR2, or even a Tahoe Z71 with similar mods can do that.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:07 pm to dewster
And?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:57 pm to NoBoDawg
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If you want reliability a six figure SUV is probably a poor choice.
Well that’s a dumb statement...why?
Expensive cars are usually loaded with modern tech and luxurious refinements. Both of which are low on the reliability scale.
In addition SUVs are driven harder and have more sophisticated drive train / suspension. Which equate to more maintenance higher likelihood of breakage.
Now combine them.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:16 pm to goofball
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don't think you understand what overlanding actually is.
Since I lived in Kenya for a while my definition would be driving on deeply rutted dirt roads that are covered with fist sized rocks, and large boulders, often forced to make a new trail around exceptionally bad sections, crossing dry river beds, with 40 degree banks going in and out, always in 4WD, never breaking 20mph, and doing this 15 hours a day for 4-5 days, all just to visit a friend, then you do the same thing to get back home. No cell service, rarely meet another vehicle, gives the term reliability a whole new meaning. I drove places that people with any money at all would only fly to. Not being able to afford a Land Crusier I did it in a Isuzu Trooper.
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