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re: Totaled vehicle, what happens next?

Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:30 pm to
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I was given dollar amounts of what State Farm determined value to be already. Once the final determination is done, what can I expect?


Call your agent and ask them...

I had two vehicles totalled with SF insurance and I dont remember doing anything paperwork wise. I did have to sign off on settlement with the st fault drivers ins company. This is what the lawyers tell you not to do if you have any thoughts of sueing the other party. You sign - you done.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4983 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Whatever the insurance company offers, decline it and demand more. They will always lowball you to see what you'll take knowing that most people aren't aware that this is a negotiation.


I have State Farm like the OP and this happened to me. I had priced a similar truck already on a dealer’s lot when they called with the offer, I declined the offer and told them it was too low especially considering the used truck prices in today’s market. They came back a few days later with an offer $5000 more which was in line with what I expected.

I took the plate off the truck….I have saved the license plates of all my vehicles.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4665 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:10 pm to
I just went through this. Here is what you do -

1. Get NADA value online for your car. This is what the insurance companies use. If you don’t think it is a fair number, use step 2
2. Pull comps - cars like yours for sale on Craigslist, Carmax and Edmunds. Adjust for condition and mileage. Provide this to the adjuster when you meet to inspect the car.
3. You have to replace your car. Make sure settlement includes TT and L.
4. Even if you are not using a rental, you are entitled to loss of use while they settle. Get a quote from a rental car company for a car similar to yours and charge them per day.

Posted by SWLATiger
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2007
419 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:47 pm to
make sure they pay you for the value of the vehicle + tax title and license....you've already paid that once and would not have incurred it a second time except the vehicle was totaled.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12052 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 3:09 pm to
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Ask the insurance agent handling your claim.


Agents don't " handle " claims. They simply report it to the carrier's claim department and they process the claim with the policy holder.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 3:18 pm to
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the body shop people told me Farmers is the best & the military one


They lied. They all suck. Some alot more than others.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16602 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Actually you don’t have to physically turn in the plate anymore, I just went through this with a totaled car




In Alabama you can take the plate to the DMV when registering your new (replacement) vehicle and they will give you credit for the taxes from date of accident to renewal as a credit on your new ride.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22119 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:08 pm to
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1. Get NADA value online for your car. This is what the insurance companies use. If you don’t think it is a fair number, use step 2
2. Pull comps - cars like yours for sale on Craigslist, Carmax and Edmunds. Adjust for condition and mileage. Provide this to the adjuster when you meet to inspect the car.
3. You have to replace your car. Make sure settlement includes TT and L.


Very important point. Most people probably have not gone through this. When buying a car you are used to talking trade in value of your vehicle. Replacing a totalled vehicle the insurance company looks at retail value plus TT&L for settlement purposes. That can vary a lot so dont let them screw you on it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15634 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Replacing a totalled vehicle the insurance company looks at retail value plus TT&L for settlement purposes.


They don't use NADA or Retail value. It's actual cash value
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
633 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:41 pm to
If this accident happened in Louisiana, and you were not at fault, see the court case Hayes v. Allstate (opinion issued on March 1, 2000). Per the court's ruling, you must receive full NADA retail value for your car, plus the applicable sales tax for your parish.

I wish I'd known this several years earlier than the date I learned of it. My daughters managed to total a couple of cars when they were relatively new drivers, and I got hosed on at least one of the settlements, and probably both.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:56 pm to
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. Replacing a totalled vehicle the insurance company looks at retail value plus TT&L for settlement purposes.

TTL was in the number I got for a valuation. I’m just waiting on someone with the authority to do it to put the stamp on it. The car has been on a complicated odyssey. I asked for it to go to a body shop in another city and state (about 180 mi away) because that was the closest shop that was certified for the make. They wanted an estimate at one of their preferred shops in town. Took several days and came I at roughly half of what the supplement to the original ended up. That process lost me almost two full weeks with T’giving eating up a couple of days. Honestly, don’t see how original shop couldn’t tell it should have been a total. I felt like the number I have seen was appropriate. I was told originally it would be a total loss then the first shop estimate screwed the pooch for me. Delaying the ultimate.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
59051 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:59 pm to
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They don't use NADA or Retail value. It's actual cash value


NADA retail is precisely what some companies use, then add TTL. NADA retail using the specific year make model options and mileage is used to determine the preloss value of the damaged vehicle, not the exactly same as replacement cost.



This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:02 pm to
They used something called CCC
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:05 pm to
. Replacing a totalled vehicle the insurance company looks at retail value plus TT&L for settlement purposes.

I’ve learned this about the “call your agent advice” I haven’t had to go through a process like this in 20 some odd years. Let’s just say what your local agent does has very little with an auto claim these days.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
59051 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:08 pm to
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They used something called CCC


CCC I believe uses comps that are adjusted in value as if their specs and mileage are equal yours, then the average of those determines the market value of your car.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3390 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:13 pm to
. Replacing a totalled vehicle the insurance company looks at retail value plus TT&L for settlement purposes.
That explains why the value was so good. Very low miles for 2019 car. Hated to lose it. My position was so good I that car considering when I bought it, how cheap the money was and the fact that it was a CPO car with almost three years of essentially BTB factory warranty left.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12052 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:25 pm to
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TTL was in the number I got for a valuation. I’m just waiting on someone with the authority to do it to put the stamp on it. The car has been on a complicated odyssey. I asked for it to go to a body shop in another city and state (about 180 mi away) because that was the closest shop that was certified for the make. They wanted an estimate at one of their preferred shops in town. Took several days and came I at roughly half of what the supplement to the original ended up. That process lost me almost two full weeks with T’giving eating up a couple of days. Honestly, don’t see how original shop couldn’t tell it should have been a total. I felt like the number I have seen was appropriate. I was told originally it would be a total loss then the first shop estimate screwed the pooch for me. Delaying the ultimate.


Why would the body shop have any incentive for your car to be declared a total loss. They make no money off of total losses. Determination of whether its a a total loss is at the discretion of the carrier bad on repair cost versus replacement value.

The carrier should have just assigned an appraiser to inspect the vehicle and determine if it is a total loss. If repairable you get to choose your body shop.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63949 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:27 pm to
say you pooped on yourself
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10673 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:52 pm to
Same situation with son's car about a year ago. I got about $3k more than I paid for it a year prior, which was awesome. Searching for a similar vehicle with similar mileage in good condition, for the amount received from insurance. Not awesome.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82988 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:01 pm to
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Whatever the insurance company offers, decline it and demand more. They will always lowball you to see what you'll take knowing that most people aren't aware that this is a negotiation.


What is your leverage here? A lawsuit if the insurance company sticks with its lowball offer?
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