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re: Tornado outbreak, 94 dead, Upwards of 100 unaccounted for search/rescue & cleanup ongoing

Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36937 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:58 pm to
NO RDS NO CARE.


No offense. You do good work. But he’s the Jedi Master when it comes to weather.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

NO RDS NO CARE.


No offense. You do good work. But he’s the Jedi Master when it comes to weather.

Fair enough. It doesn't change anything, though.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14045 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:24 pm to
I was on the windy app looking at models in AK when I accidently moved the model focus to the middle of America.

It doesn't take a weather guy to look at the models in the windy app to see the setup can be conducive for a strong storm system.

The pretty strong SW flow from the Gulf/Texas area in combination with a pretty strong low moving across the upper miss valley.

Even my coworker saw the set up and was like damn that might be bad
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:39 pm to
How have you enjoyed the freezer lately?
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
Member since Nov 2011
3325 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:07 pm to
The weather this month has been fricking disgusting. Mid 80s in December? Son of a bitch.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:45 pm to
Dont care for the southern shortwave getting rotated around.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96563 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:53 pm to
Looks like I’m in for a ride Friday evening

And to think I wasn’t gonna drink this weekend
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
143975 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Looks like I’m in for a ride Friday evening

And to think I wasn’t gonna drink this weekend

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:14 am to
Enhanced on the board D2.

The most interesting/concerning bit of the discussion:

Thunderstorms
may develop ahead of the cold front along one or more pre-frontal
confluence bands late Friday evening. If this occurs, then a broken
band of supercells may develop, with additional thunderstorms
forming later along the cold front farther west.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:37 am to
Yep.


10% hatched for tornadoes:


30% wind:


And by the sound of the discussion they are on board with the earlier/pre-line storm mode. Makes sense with the 06z HRRR not backing off on firing that convection.







Fairly well distributed across the warm sector, too, before even a hint of the QLCS forming.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 2:07 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:07 am to
Ive been focused on the local (to me) impacts vs what is out in front. There's going to be a shortwave ejecting out of the south while the main through swings out of the Rockies.

That energy is what has been flexing the trough the last few runs and could reasonably have some storms fire from a little bit of lift provided, ahead of the trough bringing the real shear.
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6603 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:34 am to
quote:

QLCS forming

What’s this?

Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5595 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:36 am to
QLCS:

Quick spin up tornadoes along a line of storms. They can be brief or a few minutes. Still can cause damage. Always look for that inflow notch on the leading edge of that line of storms.

Oklahoma went through an October for the books when it came to tornadic storms.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57785 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:28 am to
cool. i didn't want to see the sun this week anyways
Posted by Briella
Member since Nov 2021
257 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:07 am to
QLCS: Quasi-Linear Convective System

Quasi-Linear: (Almost) A line
Convective System: Thunderstorms

QLCS: A scientific way of saying a line of thunderstorms
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 7:08 am
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:08 am to
This is one of those lines that they make a huge arse deal about because there's no significant thing for weather people to focus on this time of year.

Will be a nothing burger and they'll look stupid.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96563 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:26 am to
Enhanced area looks too far north if you compare to the convection of the HRRR
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11706 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Quasi-Linear


Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 12:02 pm to
One of our new high res models (FV3) is coming in hot on supercells. Might be a little too warm at the surface but at the same time, youre generally going to have a cold surface bias on models this time of year.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65856 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:55 pm to
I'm thinking that even if we don't see alot of cells pre-line that the line is going to be fairly broken with supercell characteristics, at least for a while.

I pulled a sounding on the NAM on one of the cells way out in front in central AL and the hodo looked good. Of course, almost any sounding you pull will show tornado at this point.
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