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re: TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce
Posted on 11/29/19 at 2:59 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 11/29/19 at 2:59 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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what are they supposed to do, turn down free money?
There's a difference between these two things....
1.) Accepting the money, getting the taxpayer funded degree and being forced to leave the state after failing to find a good job and calling it very regrettable and have expressions about how they would love to have a good job in Louisiana.
2.) Accepting the money, getting the taxpayer funded degree and then hightailing it out of the state at first opportunity and bragging about it and constantly denigrating Louisiana.
People who do #2 are trashy pieces of shite that did not deserve TOPS in the first place and great example of why eliminating TOPS has support.
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:01 pm to Sentrius
I'm chuckling at your posts.
Rispone is as completely helpless as the next.
Rispone is as completely helpless as the next.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:02 pm to BurningHeart
Like “Bobby” Jindal????
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:05 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back.
Because those jobs are just going to appear out of thin air
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:08 pm to Louie T
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Rispone is as completely helpless as the next.
I'm not going to deny Rispone ran a shitty campaign and the only person Eddie Rispone has to blame for losing the election is Eddie Rispone. 2019 was a very winnable race and he blew it himself running a very incompetent and woefully inept campaign.
The votes were there for Rispone to get and he just did not get the job done. Such is life.
But that does excuse JBE at all, especially considering that he had to whip up black turnout to an absolute frenzy and win Orleans parish by ten points more than Obama did in 2008 and win just enough in North Louisiana and the suburbs to barely eek out a win against Rispone's terrible campaign.
JBE went from winning comfortably by 13 points in 2015 to just eeking it out by two points in 2019. That's not an accident.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:10 pm to Powerman
quote:Everyone understands that the jobs aren’t there.
Because those jobs are just going to appear out of thin air
That is a big problem.
Why should LA keep funding this if people keep leaving though?
How is LA benefitting currently?
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:14 pm to Sentrius
JBE is horrid. Your post just gave the impression you thought Rispone is appreciably better, which I don’t agree with.
I worked in LA a few years after college. A lot nicer opportunities came calling, and I will never regret leaving. LA in all likelihood never get out of its own way in my lifetime.
I wouldn’t have felt much remorse about leaving LA immediately after college either. I’ll always have paid more in taxes wherever I am than the government provides me in direct and indirect benefits.
I worked in LA a few years after college. A lot nicer opportunities came calling, and I will never regret leaving. LA in all likelihood never get out of its own way in my lifetime.
I wouldn’t have felt much remorse about leaving LA immediately after college either. I’ll always have paid more in taxes wherever I am than the government provides me in direct and indirect benefits.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:19 pm to Sentrius
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1.) Accepting the money, getting the taxpayer funded degree and being forced to leave the state after failing to find a good job and calling it very regrettable and have expressions about how they would love to have a good job in Louisiana. 2.) Accepting the money, getting the taxpayer funded degree and then hightailing it out of the state at first opportunity and bragging about it and constantly denigrating Louisiana.
The end result is they both leave the state
You’re upset because somebody talks shite about the worst state in the country? Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:22 pm to Louie T
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Your post just gave the impression you thought Rispone is appreciably better, which I don’t agree with.
Anyone that's capable of the success he has had in life is nothing to scoff at.
Eddie Rispone had the potential to be a great candidate with his back story. He's the one that promised a constitutional convention which we desperately need to get rid of the crappy product Edwin Edwards stuck us with in the 1970s.
Rispone just chose to act and talk like a bad candidate instead and pissed off voters he was going to need later and was promptly rewarded or shall we say, punished for it and here we are today.
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I wouldn’t have felt much remorse about leaving LA immediately after college either.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:22 pm to Scruffy
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Everyone understands that the jobs aren’t there. That is a big problem. Why should LA keep funding this if people keep leaving though? How is LA benefitting currently?
Why is the solution to terminate TOPS instead of trying to stimulate the economy, bring white collar jobs to LA, improve quality of life, etc? It’s just too damn easy to say let’s eliminate tops because people leave the state
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:24 pm to Sentrius
quote:my parents paid so much in taxes I didn’t give a shite
2.) Accepting the money, getting the taxpayer funded degree and then hightailing it out of the state at first opportunity and bragging about it and constantly denigrating Louisiana.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:24 pm to Louie T
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I wouldn’t have felt much remorse about leaving LA immediately after college either.
Why should you? Do you somehow owe some type of loyalty to Louisiana?
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:25 pm to DCtiger1
quote:Well, none of that is happening and hasn’t happened the entire time TOPS has existed.
Why is the solution to terminate TOPS instead of trying to stimulate the economy, bring white collar jobs to LA, improve quality of life, etc?
Are we even trying for that anymore or are we just continuing TOPS because we have to at this point?
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:25 pm to DCtiger1
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The end result is they both leave the state You’re upset because somebody talks shite about the worst state in the country?
If that's really what you took away from my post, then your reading comprehension needs a lot of work.
TOPS is supposed to be for people that want to work and live in Louisiana, not freeloaders who have no intention of honoring that stated goal and just want free shite and leave the state after.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:25 pm to DCtiger1
quote:. This
The end result is they both leave the state You’re upset because somebody talks shite about the worst state in the country?
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:26 pm to DCtiger1
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trying to stimulate the economy, bring white collar jobs to LA,
Good luck with that! I wish it would happen, but there is a group of people here that likes things just the way they are.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:27 pm to Sentrius
I get boned by the tax system in every way imaginable as a high earning single individual. I wouldn’t apologize had I gotten to use it advantageously once in my life.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:28 pm to DCtiger1
I don’t. That’s the misguided opinion that Sentrius holds.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:30 pm to Sentrius
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TOPS is supposed to be for people that want to work and live in Louisiana
According to who? You?
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TOPS (Taylor Opportunity Program for Students) is a program of state scholarships for Louisiana residents who attend either one of the Louisiana Public Colleges and Universities, schools that are a part of the Louisiana Community and Technical College System, Louisiana approved Proprietary and Cosmetology Schools or institutions that are a part of the Louisiana Association of Independent Colleges and Universities.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:32 pm to Scruffy
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TOPS should have a requirement that you have to stay in LA for a set period of time.
Otherwise, it makes zero financial sense for the state.
I've lived in Louisiana now for over 20 years and this attitude you have is a pervasive cultural poison in this state.
The belief that the state of Louisiana is always owed something by someone. No matter who that someone may be.
What are these kids supposed to do? Graduate from college and waste 3 or 4 years of their lives languishing in an economically depressed state?
So it makes "zero financial sense" for a state to educate it's kids? How does that make sense to you?
So what are we to do then? Deny these kids educational opportunities but at least keep them home? Or educate them and risk losing some?
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 3:34 pm
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