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re: TOPS meant to keep college educated people in LA, instead it is funding TX's workforce

Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:49 am to
Posted by SonOfMike
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5886 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:49 am to
Agreed. Feels like robbery but need more business opportunities in Louisiana
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:49 am to
Gotta say it was hella sweet to have TOPS fund my degree at LSU before leaving Louisiana.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4009 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:49 am to
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Make TOPS recipients stay in state for minimum of four years after graduation or they have to pay it back.



Or find ways to make this damn state more attractive to stay. The only positive thing this state can boast about is adding half a million people to Medicaid expansion.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:50 am to
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Why does tops exist? I never understood that. My brother-in-law had tops and failed out of LSU after a year. He's not the most book smart person i know. Seems like it's a financial burden on the state.


To encourage people with potential to stay in the state with the promise of a free college education. Instead you have people majoring in English and gender studies, and the people who are majoring in STEM are taking those degrees to Texas, Colorado, Washington, etc. where the real money is.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50755 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:50 am to
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need more business opportunities in Louisiana

That's where the higher taxes come into play. Businesses are gonna start flocking to this state any day now.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3116 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:52 am to
I know my parents paid a shite ton of taxes for the 18 years before I was a TOPS recipient for 4 years. May technically classify as just another unnecessary tax burden, but if our state is gonna piss money away on poor and lazy, at least something is making its way back to the people that work hard.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122859 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:53 am to
Do you really think the average LA student is majoring in gender studies? Read the article, one of the girls who moved found a job in Austin in marketing. The only jobs in Louisiana are STEM. You can have a bs degree in Texas and still find a decent job.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2561 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:54 am to
I realize work may be easier to find in other states, so if we want graduates to stay then maybe give some tax incentives for college grads to start business here in Louisiana.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13811 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:55 am to
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people with potential


From and outsider it seems like many people are on it that don't either deserve it or meed it. Like my wife's brother, too much of a dumbass but still got it. Plenty of people that can afford college but still take it.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:56 am to
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A governor that knows how to actually grow the economy rather than just tax more.



Exactly. If we would just end sanctuary cities and work on our car insurance the economy would be booming. We had our chance....
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20633 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:57 am to
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Yea their needs to be some overhauls to TOPS. I don’t know what the answer is but it’s not working as intended right now.



For starters it can go away.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13811 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:59 am to
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STEM


There certainly aren't enough stem jobs in Louisiana. I came to LSU for a graduate degree and moved back to texas with a job here. There was nothing there, so it meant spending 2 years apart from my wife while she finished up her program. Luckily she got a job in Dallas too when she finished.
Posted by Tigersaint09
St Petersburg
Member since Dec 2013
1127 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:00 pm to
Thank you TOPS. I appreciate the money and now I live in sunny St Petersburg. Again thank you
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10043 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:01 pm to
TOPS is not the problem.

It's the crumbling economy and a complete misuse of tax dollars that's the problem. TOPS is a good investment as long as you have something to offer graduates when they are done with school.

Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:01 pm to
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I moved with 4 other college graduates from Louisiana to Austin in 2010. All had TOPs. Best decision I ever made. No jobs in LA



yep. i just made the move to austin earlier this year and i can't believe i lasted as long as I did in baton rouge. i still love BR but i make so much more out of state and have so many more opportunities to make more than i already do that it doesn't make sense to entertain coming back.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8922 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:03 pm to
I work in technology and have been at several large technology businesses in Louisiana over the past 10 years. The businesses almost do nothing to give the inexperienced a way in to the workforce so they go to Texas. Louisiana businesses fricking Louisiana while Louisiana fricks itself.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122859 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
Right, I’m saying of the few jobs in the state, most are STEM. You can find a job in one of the big Texas areas with just about any degree.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50755 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:06 pm to
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It's the crumbling economy and a complete misuse of tax dollars that's the problem.

Like TOPS?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60666 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
I was an example of this, but after a couple years I ended up getting a much better job in LA so I moved back
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7253 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
JBE will make it worse. Texas is laughing at us more and more.
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