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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:19 pm to
Indeed glad it's ending, if it indeed is.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Indeed glad it's ending, if it indeed is.


So you’re also upset that Obama started implementing it?
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:39 pm to
Sure, whoever is qualified for the job should get the job. Regardless of sex, race, religion or whatever.

All I was pointing out was that Don did nothing about it his first four years. That's all.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:43 pm to
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All I was pointing out was that Don did nothing about it his first four years. That's all.


Well I’m certainly glad that you are obviously more upset over Obama implementing DEI than you are over why Trump didn’t “do anything” his first term.

That Obama was one big pile of shite, wasn’t he?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41288 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:44 pm to
Could you explain why we know the names of pilots in every aviation crash in history. But in this accident, one of the worst in history, the pilot who caused it does not matter according to you

Could you explain why, TT9?
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 7:45 pm
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Could you explain why, TT9?
no idea, your man is in the WH now, one would think his administration would've released the name already.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216446 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:49 pm to
You = brainwashed.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 pm to
Me?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10954 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:05 pm to
maybe when the remains are transferred at Dover, the parents will be present and IDENTIFIED
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1720 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:08 pm to
This is a terrible accident but if the measuring stick is deaths or human error there have been a lot worse.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1161 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:10 pm to
FWIW, this comes from another board, poster claims to have flown Blackhawks for the Army for 20 years. I did NOT write this:

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Thought I would jump on here and discuss some things in the wake of this tragedy. For reference, I’ve been flying Blackhawks for over 20 years and have logged about 1000 flight hours flying through the National Capitol Region. I’ve flown that route myself many many times.

1. We don’t have any type of air to air radar onboard. The accident aircraft was likely the older UH60L model. It’s all analog gauges in the cockpit. No autopilot. The newer UH60M model has a 4 axis fully coupled autopilot.

2. The capitol region, like most big cities, have special helo route charts for navigation. The routing and altitudes are very specific. That portion of the route is 200 feet and below for helos. Looks like the helo might have been operating above that altitude.

3. In my experience, the helo routes are well designed. It’s congested and busy, but it all works if everyone does what they are supposed to do. I never had any close calls while I flew there. Haven’t heard of any either.

4. The UH60 does have a black box. Some media outlets stated that we don’t. It orange and it’s in the tailboom. It does have a flight voice recorder and it captures all of the flight data.

5. Blackhawks do not have ADSB-In, only ADSB-Out. Would ADSB-in have made a difference…it’s debatable.

6. TCAS. The UH60 does not have TCAS. I don’t think that would have helped though. I remember hearing airline pilots making radio calls there with their TCAS going off in the background as they passed over my aircraft. It was normal. The route structure would have it going off every time. I feel like it would just get tuned out. But again, the routes work if everyone does what they are supposed to.

Lastly, this was a tragedy. I’m still not sure I’ve fully processed that one of our helicopters collided with a passenger jet. Fortunately, I did not know the crew members personally, but I’ve seen this too many times. I’m posting this to hopefully help some on this board process all this (Maybe help myself process it a little bit as well). Prayers for ALL of the families impacted. And thank God the debris field ended up in the river and not over a populated portion of the city.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5327 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:13 pm to
I wonder if something blew up inside the cabin. Oxygen?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177222 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:29 pm to
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I wonder if something blew up inside the cabin. Oxygen?

Wrong plane crash thread. We have two to keep up with now.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37334 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:31 pm to
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Could you explain why we know the names of pilots in every aviation crash in history. But in this accident, one of the worst in history, the pilot who caused it does not matter according to you


Because the female pilot will be treated worse than Richard Jewel.

The voice and data recorder is the most important thing now. We should hear about that by Monday at the latest.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1493 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 pm to
Also do you think the people in plane were all killed instantly? Or possibly survived only to drown in the freezing water? I hope they didn’t suffer for long.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41288 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:09 pm to
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Because the female pilot will be treated worse than Richard Jewel.


Huh? She caused the crash and is literally dead.

You’re worried they may blame the wrong person?

Wut
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8417 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:17 pm to
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one of the worst in history


Bro brush up on your history
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:40 pm to
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Because the female pilot will be treated worse than Richard Jewel.


Notice it's all the leftists who favour this censorship
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:42 pm to
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All I was pointing out was that Don did nothing about it his first four years. That's all.


His entire first term was hijacked by the deep state and RINOs. They literally lied to him about senior level shite like withdrawing troops from multiple countries
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3124 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Huh? She caused the crash and is literally dead.
You’re worried they may blame the wrong person?


As I've said before, we don't know which crew member made which mistake. If it was an eval the evaluator pilot is supervising and ultimately responsible for safety of flight intervention. Also, even during an eval, it's possible that they switched roles so the evaluator could.oerform a specific flight task for currency. But, some of ya'll just want the female pilot's identified and have already assigned blame. Best to exercise a bit of patience and wait for details so when contributing factors and responsibility are determined it is fully supported by facts. That way we can actually fix underlying issues, procedures, etc
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 10:22 pm
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