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re: Together BR, teacher union: Deny all industrial tax exemptions
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:59 am to High C
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:59 am to High C
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The results of this are usually not very good for the students, however.
Im nor sure how big a difference a teacher makes for the average student, if any.
The socioeconomic factors of the area mean far more
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:00 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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sn't the state hemmoraging money (as in loss of tax income) from these too good to be true deals with plants and such?
The exemption has been in place since 1930. Without industry, this state would be in really bad shape.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:01 am to Tigers13
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Yep, it’s so short sided
Stopped reading right there. Would you like me to "teach" you something?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:02 am to Rouge
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what are they offering in return?
They're offering you a sense of moral righteousness that you voted to give more money to kids by taking it from evil corporations that are the lifeblood of the local economy.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
quote:yeah.....I don't know what that is....
moral righteousness
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:03 am to NYCAuburn
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Sure they get some bank holidays a week off for Christmas and Easter, then two months in the summer, but they also work 10hr plus days throughout the regular year.
Week for Thanksgiving, 2 weeks for Christmas/New Year’s, week for Spring, 4 days for Easter, etc. The kids go 180 days, so half the year. The teachers have realized if they serve lunch, that counts as a day. So the kids really go about 170 days because they count half days before all of those holidays as well as teacher in services.
As far as working 10 hours a day...
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:04 am to High C
haha, derp, sighted. Sorry to ruffle your panties.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:18 am to JJ27
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As far as working 10 hours a day... No they don’t.
Correct. We generally worked from 8-4. School was out at 2:30 and post/prep work was done immediately after. Sure you do some lesson planning at home but that's generally when ideas hit you.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:22 am to High C
quote:we need to make a rule that no district can have 100% certified teachers... Ideally the percentage would be the same for every district
With uncertified, unqualified teachers, yes. There's always a "body" to put into a classroom when no certified teacher can be found. The results of this are usually not very good for the students, however.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:47 am to goofball
They really are showing their true colors I regret supporting them at one point.
There is no bigger divisive group in BR then them. Anti business, anti progress...
There is no bigger divisive group in BR then them. Anti business, anti progress...
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:58 am to Jimbeaux
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3) Let’s also assume that without the tax break, the business will not come, and/or will leave, or won’t expand to increase jobs and tax revenue.
At that point, I think it’s simply a mathematical question for a community. Does the benefit of the tax break outweigh the loss in tax revenue?
I think that its a safe assumption to make that companies shop states for the most friendly tax environment. The thing that people don't realize is that ITEP is new money. Giving the exemption doesn't reduce current funding, it just defers the new monies for 8 years. I think it is a 100% abatement for the first 5 years, then 80% for the next 3. After those 8 years 100% of the revenue will go to the local entities.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:01 pm to Scruffy
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Teachers should be some of the best educated in our society and the requirements should be daunting.
While I agree in principle, what is the point of having highly educated, specialized professionals if everything being taught is so centrally standardized?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:02 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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I think that its a safe assumption to make that companies shop states for the most friendly tax environment. The thing that people don't realize is that ITEP is new money. Giving the exemption doesn't reduce current funding, it just defers the new monies for 8 years. I think it is a 100% abatement for the first 5 years, then 80% for the next 3. After those 8 years 100% of the revenue will go to the local entities.
So temporary tax relief in exchange for long-term tax revenue. Opposition to that does sound a bit short sided.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:04 pm to upgrayedd
If you took the kids from the lowest rated school in state and switched kids with the highest rated school in the state. Then the lowest would be the highest and vice versa. Translation- its not the teachers.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:07 pm to High C
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With uncertified, unqualified teachers, yes
Louisiana's certification process is a joke - especially for teachers in HS.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:09 pm to upgrayedd
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So temporary tax relief in exchange for long-term tax revenue. That does sound a bit short sided.
It's extremely short-sighted for any governing body that votes against it IMO. You offer a tax break for money you currently aren't receiving and then have a substantial increase in revenue in 5-8 years.
My only problem with the program is that its only limited to manufacturing companies.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:14 pm to Drunken Crawfish
Are there any estimates of how much tax revenue is generated by other means associated with the business during this exemption period?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:22 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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shop states for the most friendly tax environment. The thing that people don't realize is that ITEP is new money. Giving the exemption doesn't reduce current funding, it just defers the new monies for 8 years. I think it is a 100% abatement for the first 5 years, then 80% for the next 3. After those 8 years 100% of the revenue will go to the local en
It’s been in flux but I think the current model is two 5 year periods both at 80%.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:31 pm to upgrayedd
I'm sure you could find it. Companies will still pay sales tax, inventory tax (which is another subject all together), payroll tax, and more. Plus if the company adds any new jobs that's additional income tax, property taxes and local sales tax.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:35 pm to upgrayedd
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Opposition to that does sound a bit short sided
Very.
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