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re: Today marks the 160th anniversary of the Black Day of the Confederate Army...
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:40 pm to PetroBabich
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:40 pm to PetroBabich
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by this time a lot of the general officers were walking wounded. Massively scarred, in some cases missing limbs from previous campaigns
By the time the war ended, John Bell Hood had lost the use of his left arm due to a wound at Gettysburg and had to have his right leg amputated after being shot in the thigh at Chickamauga. For the remainder of the war he had to be physically lifted onto his horse and strapped to the saddle to keep from falling off.
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:26 pm to icecreamsnowball
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I agree with you overall, but this is not true at all.
It’s very true. The standard of living here is so high that most Americans have no conception of true poverty. Poor people here have a house or an apartment, several tv’s, one or two cars, food, they spend money on entertainment, etc.. Americans, including black Americans can’t comprehend true poverty. Go to Honduras, India, anywhere in Africa. That. Is true poverty.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:55 pm to greenbean
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The majority of those fighting were actually disadvantaged by salavery as it drove wages for the working class. The ultimate rich man's war.
This right here will get you downvoted from all sides but is absolutely correct. The top 2% or whatever benefitted from slavery but everyone else got fricked.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:06 am to TG
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You have romanticized the Northern aggressors and demonized the Southerners. The rich North won and oppressed the South to a point that it still hasn't fully recovered.
Spot on. The average Confederate soldier didn’t have a pot to piss in, much less own slaves. Most were rural country boys that wanted to kill a few Yankees (who they looked at as invaders) and have a a little adventure in their otherwise monotonous lives.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:02 am to GetCocky11
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ust ignore that whole Reconstruction thing
I'm not. There were rough times for sure, but were there guillotines, beheadings, mass killings of the losing side? No. While some wanted to be vindictive, the general policy was not focused in that direction and steps were made to bring the two sides back together.
Go to Gettysburg and look at all the unit monuments. They honor troops on both sides and became part of a friendly competition among the veterans. There were reunions, where the soldiers from both sides met and broke bread together.
Key figures in the Confederacy were not executed as is usually the case. Union officers wrote to Lee to discuss movements and actions -- mostly to try to vindicate their actions.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:06 am to No Colors
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In 1865 in Mississippi, 20% of the men between 18 and 65 were missing an arm or a leg. The single largest expenditure of the state legislature that year was for prosthetic limbs.
This sounds made up.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:10 am to lepdagod
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we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers…
What exactly do you think most men did for a living in this country as of, say, 1859?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:13 am to Tornado Alley
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we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers…
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What exactly do you think most men did for a living in this country as of, say, 1859?
You mean everyone in the north wasn't a banker or merchant??
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:31 am to hansenthered1
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This explains every fight video I've ever seen at SEC games
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:58 am to bamaguy17
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If I could go back in time, I would turn those boats around. You know…to stop slavery
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:49 am to GetCocky11
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quote:quote: we’re consider the outdoorsman type fighting against bankers and haberdashers… quote:What exactly do you think most men did for a living in this country as of, say, 1859? You mean everyone in the north wasn't a banker or merchant??
It probably, at least in part, explains why the Confederacy got its arse pretty thoroughly kicked in general in the Western theater early and with a few exceptions like Chickamaugua, never really was able to get its feet underneath it.
Not only did the Western Union armies have better commanders, they were also drawing from a soldier pool that was almost entirely made up of farm boys from the stretch of the Midwest from Ohio through Iowa and Minnesota - effectively a very similar background as most of the Southern troops but colder and with no slaves.
If you’ve ever been on vacation to western and northern Michigan over the years (beautiful part of the country by the way), you’ll see monuments and chronicles where some of these small towns lost a third to a half of their male population during the war.
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