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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Like the Malaysian airliner?



To be fair, they didn't know where it crashed (or if it did). They at least know exactly where this sub went in and at exactly what time. They can model somewhat where it drifted. Situations aren't comparable.

Still a very, very hard undertaking.
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:34 pm to
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The use of the term seismometer was so these Neanderthals could have some semblance of understanding

Understood.

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The Newfy seismometer is a bit intriguing because it’s land based. The direct p-wave would’ve passed through several haloclines and thermoclines at depth as well as the shelf break. I’m surprised there isn’t a secondary set of deflections from the Rayleigh wave once the direct hit the shelf.

SPL diminishes with time and distance, anything is possible. Rayleigh ray bending is not out of the question.

Good stuff, thanks.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:48 pm to
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The lack of comms with Titan's USBL transponder lends credence to the first, assuming it has backup batteries as usual.


Given the seismic trace I agree on the implosion. Where is the USBL located on the submersible? Maybe it landed upside down or on its side
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:49 pm to
They wouldn't necessarily be crushed as much as vaporized by the violence of the sub failing. The nitrogen stuff happens when your body is put in a high pressure environment and nitrogen compresses and diffuses into your bloodstream. Rapid decompression causes it to very rapidly expand and in extreme cases can literally blow you apart.

The sub was at close to atmospheric pressure, so what happened here is the opposite, Rapid compression. Absent of the sub, I guess they would be smashed and compacted into a shoe box sized spherical blob. With the sub though, it would be a very violent implosion. They basically just cease to exist.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:51 pm to
what a way to go
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:51 pm to
"50 year old white guys with military experience" would be exactly who I'd want to be hiring. Ex-Navy sub guys.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:53 pm to
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implosion. Where is the USBL located on the submersible

USBL is on the mothership. It interrogates a beacon on the submersible and the beacon/transponder will “respond”. They would’ve used an omnidirectional beacon so landing on its side wouldn’t matter. The sub more than likely wouldn’t land upside down as the drop weights are attached to the bottom, thus would have landed upright-ish.

But that’s a moot point, she gone.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:53 pm to
People are relatively incompressible. That's why saturation diving is possible in the first place. We aren't as squishy (well some of us) as many think we are.
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:53 pm to
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He's on video discussing who he's hired and why. Oh, but he didn't replace himself, so 'grain of salt.'

I saw his stupid quote and I also looked at their website. Everyone on it is either a 50s white guy or the chief pilot, who looks to be a 40s white guy who was a professional diver. Do you have some other information?
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Athis
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:56 pm to
11AM Thursday is when they run out of oxygen...
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:57 pm to
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They can model somewhat where it drifted.

It's a difficult area to model because it's where two major currents meet, which creates complex and unpredictable water movements.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:58 pm to
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11AM Thursday is when they run out of oxygen..

I suspect (or rather, for their sake, I hope) the oxygen left the sub when it imploded.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:58 pm to
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People are relatively incompressible


Well we are mostly water, after all.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:00 pm to
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honestly I doubt the military has anything better for this type of recovery job
as was mentioned earlier, Dirk Pitt could easily free dive down and rescue everyone
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:01 pm to
Fun fact - it would have liquefied during the implosion before dissolving into the water.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:04 pm to
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Does it bother you that you constantly have to do mental gymnastics to carry water for progressive bullshite? You know it's wrong, but you do it anyway. That's cult-like devotion.


Look in the mirror. It’s hilarious that you’re trying to make this a political progressivism gone wrong boogeyman b/c you need to completely ignore all of the documented corner cutting, cost skimping, and unrealistic goals that Stockton Rush pushed.

Once again, it does not matter who he had doing the designs b/c he absolutely did not give a frick about safety standards he deemed to be out of date regulations stifling innovation. He wasn’t going to listen to anyone that told him it couldn’t be done. He wasn’t even willing to pay for it to be tested. His firing of David Lochridge in 2018 proves that.

Hell I wouldn’t be shocked if the old white guys comment was a thinly veiled jab at people like Lochridge and the dozens of outside experts who all called into question what Rush was doing as far back as 2018.

This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Well we are mostly water, after all


My brain tells me, if I’m 80% water, I only need to use 20% of my body to swim.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15475 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:07 pm to
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. Do you have some other information?

Tboy is gay.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:08 pm to
Did anyone on the vessel have ties to the Clintons by chance?
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:10 pm to
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Do you have some other information?


quote:

Tboy is gay.



Least disputable thing in this entire thread.
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