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re: Tipping businesses

Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:52 am to
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:52 am to
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What if it's bad service?


Then no tip.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:32 am to
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It's a goddamned guide for people who can't calculate.

Are you upset that these suggested percentages start at 15%?

If you actually are an MD like someone suggested, you sure seem to be a cheap one. Take food home from the cafeteria next time.



Agreed, but I cannot remember the last time I saw one that start at 15%. They almost always start higher than that.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:51 am to
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Well 15% was the fairly average tip for a long time...but no that doesn't bother me. What does bother me is when you have some electronic system and there is an automatic minimum. 15% is for basic arse service. 20+%is for good service. What if it's bad service?


I am not patronizing a place that automatically adds the tip to my bill. I don't mind the suggestion at the bottom. I can do the math, but if they want to do it for me, I'm fine with that. A tip is meant to be a reward based on service. I am very generous when service is excellent, but if I'm ignored like I was the other day, the tip is far below 15%. When I say ignored, I mean not seeing you waiter for a very long time, and having to get another employee to find them so that you can get condiments that should have came with your entree, like ketchup for fries.
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1662 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:28 am to

Restaurants need to start paying a competitive wage and let the prices reflect it Do away with tipping unless the service is extraordinary.

It's been tried and it's been a complete disaster ( on a larger scale).
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:41 am to
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Restaurants need to start paying a competitive wage and let the prices reflect it Do away with tipping unless the service is extraordinary.

It's been tried and it's been a complete disaster ( on a larger scale).



It's my understanding that tipping is rare in Europe. How do their waiters and restaurants survive without much tipping?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:45 am to
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Do you like when businesses put percentages on their receipts?

Does that change what you tip?



Its a non factor to me. I have always just doubled the tax unless of course service was poor, then I will reflect that in my tip. If its fantastic service, I will add to it simply for no other reason than I think hard work and excellence should be rewarded, and no other reason than that.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45429 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:39 am to
I never take a bonus from my clients. It is up to management to evaluate my performance and adjust accordingly. We would never ask our clients to supplement our staffs income directly.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:42 am to
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Do you like when businesses put percentages on their receipts?


Like the “15% = $x.xx, 20% = $y.yy” etc? It’s nice, but I don’t hate if a place doesn’t do it.

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Does that change what you tip?


No, I usually start at 15-18% and adjust up or down based on service. Putting the line on the receipt makes no difference other than letting me see the math instead of using my phone calculator.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:45 am to
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I don’t tip for takeout. For takeout, I’m leaving my home to go pick up the food. Tipping $10 to an employee for handing me a bag curbside, yeah that’s a negative


I tip a little for takeout because they’re packaging it up and bringing it to me.

I’m tipping a lot more now because I want to help the businesses and workers who are out there trying to earn money in a time where it’s very hard for them to do so.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3944 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:23 am to
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Like the “15% = $x.xx, 20% = $y.yy” etc? It’s nice, but I don’t hate if a place doesn’t do it.


I don't mind this but it chaps my arse when their percentage includes the tax amount. While it is only about 2% extra, I do not believe in tipping on tax and to me this is a dishonest number calling it 20%.



Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1526 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:26 am to
Move decimal place over to the left one place and double. Done.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 11:27 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:32 am to
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It's my understanding that tipping is rare in Europe. How do their waiters and restaurants survive without much tipping?



Europe also displays the post-tax total in stores. Point being - they didn't go from decades of X and switch to Y.

Restaurants in the US have attempted to move to a no-tipping model. To make up for it, they had to increase their prices. It has never worked out well for them.

The only way you'd really see it work would be for all restaurants to do it simultaneously. Otherwise, people are going to go to the place with lower prices.. even if it isn't truly lower once tip is factored in.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:35 am to
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I never take a bonus from my clients. It is up to management to evaluate my performance and adjust accordingly. We would never ask our clients to supplement our staffs income directly.


You aren't asking your client or customer, they are voluntarily offering it to you because they enjoyed the service. But good for you man..
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5773 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:36 am to
I normally tip 15% to go and +-25% on dine in meals.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
7032 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:48 am to
I don't mind the percentages. I'm gonna tip around 20% each time unless its extraordinary service...then I'll leave 25-30%...
Which really doesn't matter I guess because that server has to split their tips with everyone. That's when it started seeming unfair to me. Why should my super waiter get the same tip allocation at the end of the night as your shitty waiter?
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61812 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:50 am to
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I never take a bonus from my clients. It is up to management to evaluate my performance and adjust accordingly. We would never ask our clients to supplement our staffs income directly.

Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:52 am to
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that server has to split their tips with everyone. That's when it started seeming unfair to me. Why should my super waiter get the same tip allocation at the end of the night as your shitty waiter?


Huh? It is extremely rare for servers to pool tips. Bartenders, yes. But servers do not.

Servers do tip out the kitchen and/or bartenders though.. since the whole idea is that everyone worked together and only one person is getting tipped. Still though, they tip a % out from their total sales, so your large tip is still going to the server.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
7032 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:56 am to
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Huh? It is extremely rare for servers to pool tips. Bartenders, yes. But servers do not.

Servers do tip out the kitchen and/or bartenders though.. since the whole idea is that everyone worked together and only one person is getting tipped. Still though, they tip a % out from their total sales, so your large tip is still going to the server.


Good to know!! I guess I heard it wrong.
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4015 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:04 pm to
I usually start at 15% and adjust up according to how hot the waitress is. IRL 8's and 9's might get 30%.

Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6870 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:05 pm to
If they put a tip on the bill it is not a tip but a surcharge.
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