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re: Time to rethink the 40 hour work week
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:38 pm to Areddishfish
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:38 pm to Areddishfish
If the 40-hr week were to ever be dropped, then be prepared for a lot of changes to base salaries.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:39 pm to Areddishfish
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I feel like you are often paid mostly to just be physically present than actual work needing to be done. I've had a variety of jobs and with the exception of certain really busy days, there is often a severe shortage of things to do for a full 8 hours every day. Anyone else feel the same?
My billable rate is in the 80-90% range. I could shave off an hour every day but that's about it. The rest of my time is being charged to the client. I feel like I need that downtime for my sanity anyway.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:40 pm to moneyg
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The last thing we need is the government deciding that a 40 hour work work is too long. Workers and Employers should determine that.
Sorry if my post was misleading. I'm not suggesting that the government dictate anything. More so that the private sector shifts towards this option or at least have said option.
I completed my Masters from home and finished it within a year and straight As. I know working from home isn't for everyone, but I definitely know I can work with it. The main reason I don't currently is because I haven't found something that can equal what I make now, but if I had the option I most certainly would take it.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:04 pm to fallguy_1978
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I would lose my mind if I had to work from home full time. I'd have to go sit in a coffee shop or a library
Ditto. I'm sure working from home is great for some people, but I know I just couldn't do it.
The times I've tried were some of the most unproductive days of my life.
My brain is hard-wired so that being in my office means "work" and being anywhere else means "not work."
I'm lucky in the sense that I never have to worry about taking work home with me. I love having that bright line between my work and my life.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:12 pm to Areddishfish
I'm an engineer. Most projects I work closely with drafters to finish said projects. The interaction between me and the drafters has to be in person the majority of times. Sure there is technology where we could communicate with one another, but seeing their work in person is a lot easier than using an online conference call. I do agree that I can do some of my job from home, some days I would have to work at the office.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:13 pm to UGATiger26
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Ditto. I'm sure working from home is great for some people, but I know I just couldn't do it. The times I've tried were some of the most unproductive days of my life.
I can work from home as needed but rarely do it. Maybe 4-5 days per year. I find myself turning on the tv in my office and watching the news, getting up to wash the dishes etc. I also don't like being in the house all day and night.
My commute to work is 6 miles so it doesn't save me much money or time and I have to bring my daughter to school in the morning anyway.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:16 pm to UGATiger26
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I'm lucky in the sense that I never have to worry about taking work home with me. I love having that bright line in my life between my work and my life.
One of the greatest things about the working world compared to school. At the end of the day knowing that I'm just on my time is so relieving. In school there was almost always something hanging over your head (whether you chose to work harder to improve it or hit up Fred's on a Tuesday was on you

Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:26 pm to Areddishfish
I could easily do my job at home. After Harvey we flooded and I had to work form home for over two months. In general I was way more efficient than in the office. It also doesn't take me 40 hours to do my job in general. Some weeks are worse and have a lot of extra work but some weeks I probably only have about 20 hours of actual work that I need to do. Although I am pretty lucky. My boss and his boss are pretty lax. As long as I do my shite in timely manner and deliver good work they don't care how long I'm actually here.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:29 pm to tylercsbn9
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As long as I do my shite in timely manner and deliver good work they don't care how long I'm actually here.
I need this in my life.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:51 pm to Areddishfish
I think the market should control how long workers work, within reason. If a competitor manages to cut work hours and provide a superior product, then more people will want to work there, and other companies will have to adapt or die.
I don't think the majority of companies are just keeping people there all day out of habit. I think they generally need a warm body present. Once technology allows, I'm sure there will be change. It's a double-edged sword, though. With advancing technology, workers can't be complacent. They must prove their worth and remain indispensable.
I also don't find a 40 hour work week that demanding. Like it or not, there are always people willing to put in 50 or 60 hour work weeks to get ahead and put more money in their pockets. We should let them and encourage them. This isn't France.
I don't think the majority of companies are just keeping people there all day out of habit. I think they generally need a warm body present. Once technology allows, I'm sure there will be change. It's a double-edged sword, though. With advancing technology, workers can't be complacent. They must prove their worth and remain indispensable.
I also don't find a 40 hour work week that demanding. Like it or not, there are always people willing to put in 50 or 60 hour work weeks to get ahead and put more money in their pockets. We should let them and encourage them. This isn't France.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:59 pm to CBarkleytruth
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Many will come in bragging about how their life is perfect and they don’t work nearly 40 hours but you’re absolutely right. Companies should offer an option for a 10% salary cut if you would like to work from home. With all of the production metrics available these days it would not be an issue. The company would save money and you would have a much happier employee.
It's the OT. We all frick OT 10s on the regular and own our own businesses that only requires a maximum of 30 hours of work a week while we make at least $1,000,000 a month.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:01 pm to Areddishfish
I prefer 50-60 hours a week. I enjoy working.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:02 pm to Areddishfish
I do 40 hrs of ACTUAL work by in the first 3 days of the week.
Not my fault you guys are low energy.
Not my fault you guys are low energy.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:04 pm to fallguy_1978
Well have a 20-25 hour workweek in a couple of decades, maybe less
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:16 pm to Areddishfish
I haven't worked in an office since Jan. '13 and would say that working from home is great for all of the reasons that you stated, but not as cool as it sounds for many that people often overlook.
You miss out on a lot of the simple interpersonal interactions that do make a difference. I talk to people on the phone all day but it's not the same. You also can't just turn around and get help when you get stuck with something. At times, small issues become giant obstacles if you're your own admin and tech support.
Also, it really depends on who you report to and how they view the situation. If you have a manager that inherited remote team members and isn't really comfortable with the trust that it takes, life can be rough.
You miss out on a lot of the simple interpersonal interactions that do make a difference. I talk to people on the phone all day but it's not the same. You also can't just turn around and get help when you get stuck with something. At times, small issues become giant obstacles if you're your own admin and tech support.
Also, it really depends on who you report to and how they view the situation. If you have a manager that inherited remote team members and isn't really comfortable with the trust that it takes, life can be rough.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:25 pm to PrivatePublic
So does my boss and he thinks it's the same for everyone else.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:26 pm to atxfan
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I haven't worked in an office since Jan. '13
If I may, what is your line of work?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:57 pm to Martini
I could do much of it from mars.
Lots not though.
I wore 3 to 5 hats.
Lots not though.
I wore 3 to 5 hats.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:15 pm to SECdragonmaster
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I do 40 hrs of ACTUAL work by in the first 3 days of the week. Not my fault you guys are low energy.
Maybe we just things more important things to do with our lives.
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