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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:56 pm to
Shocked after 3 pages no one from SLU has chimed in yet.. Most core books are rented and built into tuition.

ETA: 4 pages
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 3:57 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:59 pm to

Is it possible that you can acquire PDF versions of your textbooks for some classes? I did this all the time in for BS Physics. Saves money big time.


.... Heck, I sometimes do it for my Masters Degree
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:00 pm to
Eh, we have gone over vector calculus/fluids for the first two classes, and have two more of it. Starting out boring
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:05 pm to
It'll change soon. The real challenge in that class is how to convert governing PDE's to algebraic equations. That's the overarching goal of CFD. And happens to be a useful skill to have in general.

ETA - I have the PDF of that textbook if you want it.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:24 pm to
Nah, I prefer having the actual book. Reading stuff on the computer =/= reading out of a book

We're supposed to be writing code to solve the heat eqn and using Fluent this semester also
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25617 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:30 pm to
Bro college is supposed to be four years. Not 40 years. Get a job you bum
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:36 pm to
I had succes with the international versions. It's the exact same book just without glossy paper.

I have already straight up asked professors If the book is even needed.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:37 pm to
Bookstore throwing peanuts at you?

Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:45 pm to
I remember how ghetto SELU seemed at the time for its mandatory book rental policy.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Just to do homework for one class this semester, I have to pay $75 to Mcgraw-Hill for a dog shite homework website. That's just to turn in my homework


Some of the textbook pricing I understand and can go along with. Most I have a problem with. Usually you can find creative ways to deal with high book prices.

However, what you just described is really aggravating. You should look to see if that requirement was expressed in the course catalog. I don't believe that's legal unless it was disclosed ahead of time - professor is basically saying, "Hey guys, I'm charging you $75 to do your own homework". That's essentially like having a course with a lab, which has a fee attached. Well, it's far worse than that.

At its best, such a practice is unethical coercion of a captive audience. At its worst, that's conspiracy. That online thing is likely just a way for the professor to never have to grade anything, compile reports or you know, like, do any work.

I think you should complain, seriously, and demand the school cover that $75 or refund that $75 to you. If they don't, blast that professor during course reviews, write a letter to the newspaper (school paper). You help substantiate the fact that is a fraud by citing the ubiquitous nature of freeware programs that could handle homework submission and automatic grading. You're paying $75 for McGraw-Hill to do the professors job for him. That's some Grade A bullshite right there.

A professor that does this to his students can't be a good person.

Maybe a lot of professors these days are dumb and lazy - just like millenials are accused of being. It wasn't that long ago I was in school and I remember professors coming in with reports showing what questions were missed, likely reasons, hand written notes of feedback they made on HW and tests, and so forth for the purposes of review. Best classes I ever took did nothing with a computer or the internet. Had a grad course in stats that didn't even require a calculator. Most I ever learned in one semester.
Posted by anchoo99
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:48 pm to
You know that you'll use these books for life, right?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Bro college is supposed to be four years. Not 40 years.


Tell that to people who want PhDs or become doctors. Surgeons have it best in terms of $, but for practically a decade of your life it should be.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:57 pm to
For real. Who the hell buys books from the campus bookstore?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:58 pm to
Lol. I buy on Amazon for cheaper and sell for a near wash almost every semester
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:39 pm to
I rented my book through Amazon for ~$40.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:27 pm to
I need my books before the scheduled delivery date of January 22 - February 8
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17632 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:34 pm to
Look for International Editions on Ebay. Much cheaper, no resale value though. The best times are when you can find a torrent. Though LSU is getting better with online books. All my books last semester were free online through the library.
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