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Thoughts on university fees for extra curriculars (Athletics and other wise)

Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:11 am
ULM is putting a fee up to student vote today that’ll charge students $10 per credit hour (not to exceed $150 total) that’ll be dispersed amongst various student organizations including athletics (I wanna say athletics gets the largest chunk of it but I’m not sure).Students at the school of course are throwing a huge fit over it. What are your thoughts?

Personally I’m for it. Granted I was an athlete there so my opinion is biased but at this point anything that can help the university grow some and make it more attractive is only a good thing. The fee is essentially an investment to make the degree more valuable, in my opinion. Not too mention it’s a ton more forthright in its intentions then a lot of the other bullshite vague fees universities charge like an academic excellence fee or whatever other shite they come up with.

Just curious what the OTs opinion was on this.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:32 am to
State universities add fees because they cannot increase tutition without state approval. Fees are generally easier to get approved.

Fees can be a good thing as they lock in a financial commitment to the associated programs at the school.

LSU has used fees to keep their classroom tech up to date as well as upgrade their REC center

I believe they also have an athletics fee which allows students to attend games (non-football) free of charge

Here's a list of the LSU fees:

Fees

More fees
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:38 am to
UAB did something similar for athletics when it was bringing back the football program after the 2014 shutdown. It was a $25 per semester fee and would go toward the fundraising to bring back the football, bowling, and rifle teams.

I voted no. Tuition went up unexplained every single semester I was there. Therefore, I didn’t feel it fair to impose an additional fee (even if it is a small one), even if I did support the return of these programs.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:22 am to
Louisiana universities raise fees when their state-supplied budgets don't stagnate or decrease. Despite what some would have you believe, none have ever had a funding problem. I spoke to a provost about this exact issue. He told me just that.

So, your fees will match or exceed tuition most of the time.


Eta: In fact, every university in the state has been taking in more money each year than the previous year. They also spend more each year than the previous year. Financials are public
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:36 am to
quote:

ULM is putting a fee up to student vote


quote:

Students at the school of course are throwing a huge fit over it.


They can vote no.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Granted I was an athlete there
I thought you just ran cross country.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Louisiana universities raise fees when their state-supplied budgets don't stagnate or decrease. Despite what some would have you believe, none have ever had a funding problem. I spoke to a provost about this exact issue. He told me just that.
This is true.

The big culprit of all of the increases in school spending is the administration positions.

The number of administrators for bullshite depts such as diversity or title IX based entities are increasing.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:48 am to
I remember that I had an "excellence" fee when I was at LSU. I'm yet to receive what I paid for.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:23 am to
We had a "Fuel Recovery Fee" at UNO, that was in place just in case the school happened to use more electricity than it planned to that semester. Didn't get it back if they used less than budgeted for.

We also had a "Building Use Fee", and a "Student Retention Fee"
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:11 pm to
I hope they vote yes for it but I know a lot of students at ULM are voting no
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

I thought you just ran cross country.
hey frick you buddy

I ran track too.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39311 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:40 pm to
yea no way in hell this passes. I just find it amazing that students are throwing a fit when all they have to do is vote no and theres a shite ton of other stupid fees assessed that are never explained. Why not throw a fit over those?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:42 pm to
As much as the students bitch about college costs, they almost ALWAYS overwhelmingly approve the new fees.

The campus vote will be like, "Proposal A, for the additional of a new diversity training center - this will cost each student $10 per semester." And time after time, they continue to vote yes.

My daughter pays almost $350 a semester in added fees, most of which were voted by the students themselves.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I hope they vote yes for it but I know a lot of students at ULM are voting no
They will likely enact the fee even if the students reject it.

These votes are usually just for show.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10203 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

The big culprit of all of the increases in school spending is the administration positions. The number of administrators for bullshite depts such as diversity or title IX based entities are increasing.


You win. This is 100% the case.
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:46 pm to
LSU has a $150 golf fee???

My second son is at ULL -- his fees I read include day care, fee, cheerleader fee, as well as a bunch of other things. These I should add are MORE than what the fee is for campus police.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

My daughter pays almost $350 a semester in added fees, most of which were voted by the students themselves.


Again, another "when I was at LSU" I had TOPS, so tuition was covered. The entirety of the $700-$800 that I paid a semester went to assorted fees.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:48 pm to
They should just start cutting all of the non profit generating sports.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

As much as the students bitch about college costs, they almost ALWAYS overwhelmingly approve the new fees.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:53 pm to
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They also spend more each year than the previous year. Financials are public


The zero balance budgeting is something that needs to change. Schools waste a lot of money at the end of every fiscal year because they have to start burning up money they haven't spent on whatever they can think of to get to zero. I taught at a State University and the department head would come into my office and tell me to find someplace to spend X dollars by the end of the week or risk having to department budget cut.
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