re: Thoughts on the RaDonda Vaught (nurse convicted of negligent homicide) trial?

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The patient had a subdermal hematoma on her head that was causing headaches and vision loss.

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Subdural hematoma, a type of brain bleed. A sub dermal hematoma wouldn’t do shite

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She pulled the Verconium, and gave it to the patient, who lost consciousness and never recovered.

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Vecuronium is a paralytic. It doesn’t affect consciousness.

The poor patient was conscious but unable to move, unable to talk, unable to breathe… until she suffocated and had cardiac arrest. A horrible way to go.

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Why should intent matter?

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So you feel an accident that results in a death and a person who commits an act with a sole intent is to kill carries the same weight?

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Revoking a license is a slap on the wrist

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Yeah a physician losing their livelihood is a slap on the wrist.

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As an internal auditor, this is why we always always tell them there should be zero overrides and no verbal orders

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How would you handle stat phone orders? Not being ugly just truly curious.

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Versed should not be a verbal order.

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So in an ER setting, how should it be handled? I totally see the value in a doc writing an order but in an ER setting the time may not be there.

Side note: Not nearly on the same level but when my mom had my youngest brother via c=section, the nurse came in to give her some pain meds. My mom, being her talkative self, asked what she was being given since she couldn't have demerol. The nurses face dropped and the meds had already gone into the iv ... my mom wasn't going to die from it BUT it was a rough 24 hours of hallucinations and not being able to do squat. I wouldn't have wanted to be that nurse to call the doctor. I was 15 and can't remember what if anything they did to counteract the demerol but I know that she was in the hospital an extra day.

She kept telling my dad she was dead and when he would say "no you're not" she kept saying "but I have a toe tag on my toe .. I can see it".

NOW when she has ANYTHING procedure wise done she writes "allergic to demerol" on her arms .. in a sharpie marker.

If my nurses start refusing verbal orders over this I’m gonna blow a gasket

She’s incompetent and dangerous but sounds like the hospital’s system sucked too. Nurses should spend more time studying drugs and less making TikToks.

Maybe they should pay good nurses more. Too many good ones leave ER and ICU after a few years and go to NP or CRNA school or get a Cush job

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Maybe they should pay good nurses more. Too many good ones leave ER and ICU after a few years and go to NP or CRNA school or get a Cush job

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Any nurse good enough to move on to become an NP or CRNA should do so. There's a reason CRNAs make good money. They deserve it. Not saying a good ER nurse isn't valuable - they are, but it's not the same level of responsibility.

I saw a post from a nurse saying that
1. There were issues with the system in the hospital and this patient had over 20 over rides within 3 days for drugs
2. She admitted her error was working at another clinic after being cleared by the board
3. Autopsy from two neurologists stated cause of death as brain bleed
4. No one this was a big deal until the hospital was getting funding pulled for fraud (not reporting the death) after being notified of the investigation for not reporting the death an “anonymous” tip was provided to the da office and she was charged and arrested
5. The da was a professor at Vanderbilt university before becoming da
6. Governor receives funding from Vanderbilt

Can anyone verify if all of that is true? If so I believe it changes some of the outlook on this case and she was used as a scape goat which is fricked.