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re: Thoughts on the flu shot?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:34 am to FenrirTheBeard
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:34 am to FenrirTheBeard
You will probably survive the flu regardless, but you could give it to someone with a weak immune system who may not.
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:38 am to TeddyPadillac
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Do you even casually know anyone who's been hospitalized, much less died from the flu? Probably not.
yeah, two people actually. one in their early 30's and one around 50
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:39 am to LSUvegasbombed
If you got a cold two days later that means your immune system sucks. Yes your immune system will be fighting during the days after the shot, but if it drops your immune system that much....it sucked in the first place. More likely it was just a coincidence.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:42 am to FenrirTheBeard
Not injecting my body with that poison.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:44 am to TeddyPadillac
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Do you even casually know anyone who's been hospitalized, much less died from the flu? Probably not.
My mother spent a week in the hospital with the flu in January of 2015. Among other fun things, it crashed her electrolyte levels and caused a seizure. After she was released, she had to be rehospitalized for a few days due to a bad reaction to Tamiflu.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:55 am to Landmass
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There is almost no point at all in getting the flu shot unless you want to spread the flu to other people around you.
Also from the article you cited...
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Transmission of shed LAIV vaccine viruses from vaccine recipients to unvaccinated persons has been documented, but has not been reported to be associated with serious illness.
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The estimated probability of transmission of vaccine virus within a contact group with a single LAIV recipient in this population was 0.58% (95%CI = 0–1.7) (481).
The 80% number is also referring to people who received the live attenuated vaccine (nasal mist) which is not nearly as common as the injection.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:56 am to FenrirTheBeard
I've never gotten the flu shot, and only got the flu once when I was a kid. My wife and children do get the flu shot, and my wife has ended up catching the flu a couple times after getting the shot.
I do take extra precautions during flu season like wash my hands a lot, use hand sanitizer, don't rub my eyes, and Lysol hotel rooms. I think these are more effective in staying healthy than just taking a shot.
I do take extra precautions during flu season like wash my hands a lot, use hand sanitizer, don't rub my eyes, and Lysol hotel rooms. I think these are more effective in staying healthy than just taking a shot.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:57 am to Landmass
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There is almost no point at all in getting the flu shot unless you want to spread the flu to other people around you.
And before anyone calls me an idiot, this comes straight from the CDC website:
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80% of vaccine recipients shed one or more virus strains
Flu Vaccine Safety CDC
The shedding occurs, sure, but only in the Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine (LAIV). This is the nasal vaccine, not any of the shots. The overwhelming number of vaccines administered in the US are the Inactivated Influenza Vaccines (IIVs) which DO NOT SHED because they're not live viruses.
And even in the LAIV shed situations, it very rarely leads to serious illness:
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Transmission of shed LAIV vaccine viruses from vaccine recipients to unvaccinated persons has been documented, but has not been reported to be associated with serious illness. One study of 197 children aged 9–36 months in a child care center assessed the potential for transmission of LAIV3 vaccine viruses from 98 vaccinated children to 99 unvaccinated children; 80% of vaccine recipients shed one or more virus strains (mean duration: 7.6 days). One influenza B vaccine virus strain isolate was recovered from a placebo recipient and was confirmed to be vaccine-type virus. The influenza B virus isolate retained the cold-adapted, temperature-sensitive, attenuated phenotype. The placebo recipient from whom the influenza B vaccine virus strain was isolated had symptoms of a mild upper respiratory illness. The estimated probability of transmission of vaccine virus within a contact group with a single LAIV recipient in this population was 0.58% (95%CI = 0–1.7) (481).
Bottom line, it does WAY more good than harm to get a flu vaccine, even if it is the nasally administered variety.
In summary, ur an idiot.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:39 pm to TheAstroTiger
i cant remember the last time i have been sick
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:45 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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with a strong immune system.
Is not going to hold up to the flu virus.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:54 pm to East Coast Band
Despite my vaccination expert's warnings, I haven't caught the Autism yet. 
I've gotten the flu shot the past 10 years and haven't had the flu. I'm not so much concerned with catching the flu myself as I am with passing it onto people with weakened immune systems like the elderly or infants.
I've gotten the flu shot the past 10 years and haven't had the flu. I'm not so much concerned with catching the flu myself as I am with passing it onto people with weakened immune systems like the elderly or infants.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 1:11 pm to SM6
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I'm not so much concerned with catching the flu myself as I am with passing it onto people with weakened immune systems like the elderly or infants
yeah but if the old people and infants get the flu, they'll be less likely to get it next year. If they die, the herd gets stronger. And the last 50 threads we had on this subject pointed out that the purpose of the flu shot is herd vaccination.
So do the herd a favor and weed out the old and weak.
its the only way we'll survive the flu.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 1:54 pm to FenrirTheBeard
quote:Do you work at a toll booth?
I’m around thousands of people every single day
Btw, I've never gotten the shot, and I haven't had the flu since I was maybe 10. My gf actually suggested I get the shot yesterday afternoon. I told her I'm not worried about the flu, because I haven't gotten it in so long. She gets a shot every year, and has had the flu twice in five years (once bad, and once not so bad).
Don't get it, and rub it in your wife's face when she gets sick and you don't
Posted on 10/22/18 at 1:58 pm to FenrirTheBeard
Not a silver bullet but helps with the odds.
We get them free at work.
We get them free at work.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:08 pm to Jim Rockford
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You will probably survive the flu regardless, but you could give it to someone with a weak immune system who may not.
How is this not true whether, or not, you get the shot?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:13 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Do you even casually know anyone who's been hospitalized, much less died from the flu? Probably not.
Uh, yes. To both. And both of the people I know who died from it were healthy late 20 to early 30 year olds who were not vaccinated. I’ve seen a couple of kids through work hospitalized this year already for it.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:16 pm to Steadyhands
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You will probably survive the flu regardless, but you could give it to someone with a weak immune system who may not.
How is this not true whether, or not, you get the shot?
If you get vaccinated, you won't be actively spreading the flu. However, if you don't get vaccinated, then catch the flu, you will be actively spreading the virus for an extended period while you are sick even if you are fine/get over it.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:17 pm to FenrirTheBeard
I don’t feel like arguing with idiots today. Get it don’t get it. I don’t care. I don’t know you so no harm to me if you die from the flu.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:21 pm to FenrirTheBeard
You get the flu shot to minimize the time you have the flu and decrease your chance to spread the infection.
These fricking threads every week by a bunch of retards. Damn.
These fricking threads every week by a bunch of retards. Damn.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:21 pm to lsunurse
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no harm to me if you die from the flu.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 2:23 pm
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