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Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:20 am to UFFan
Tyrant pos.
What was the last thing that entered Lincoln's mind at Ford's Theatre?
What was the last thing that entered Lincoln's mind at Ford's Theatre?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:27 am to Riggle
Abe & Mary Todd’s cover of Sonny & Share’s “I’ve got you Abe” was brilliant.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:33 am to UFFan
Kind of a douche for wearing a top hat to a theater being the height he was.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:38 am to UFFan
quote:He told everybody who would listen that he liked going to gay bars.
Thoughts on Abraham Lincoln?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:19 am to UFFan
He is the best example ever in why self-education sometimes exceeds the formal version.
He learned to learn. And because he wasn’t taught through someone else’s point of view, he saw connections that few others would have.
He was also a tough MF. He didn’t mind if you underestimated him. And those who learned that lesson the hard way often became his closest colleagues.
He learned to learn. And because he wasn’t taught through someone else’s point of view, he saw connections that few others would have.
He was also a tough MF. He didn’t mind if you underestimated him. And those who learned that lesson the hard way often became his closest colleagues.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:57 am to UFFan
He as a memorial
Could have been a uniter and choose to stand his ground creating the largest casualty war in US history to which some ties are still broke . Winners get the good press
Could have been a uniter and choose to stand his ground creating the largest casualty war in US history to which some ties are still broke . Winners get the good press
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:36 pm to UFFan
Like all of us, a very conflicted, inconsistent, and ever changing man. Part of me resents him, part respects him, and the other isn’t sure what to think. In the end, things worked out the way they should have, and praise God for it, but I still do question the cost to the country and our ever expanding central government as a result of those actions. There is always going to be a fundamental principle of self government attached to his name that was run roughshod over at the mention of his name, but I do think the man was right in the cause of abolition to be certain, but then the end never justifies the means in my opinion, especially when I consider the cost to our country in the federal government taking such presence in our lives as a result of that power shift that took place from the war.
It’s obviously much easier to play Monday morning quarterback, but I seriously wish cooler heads would have prevailed on both sides, if not for the lives lost, then for the future of this republic and the ideals upon which we were founded upon.
It’s obviously much easier to play Monday morning quarterback, but I seriously wish cooler heads would have prevailed on both sides, if not for the lives lost, then for the future of this republic and the ideals upon which we were founded upon.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:51 pm to UFFan
Queer.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:52 pm to UFFan
He’s was a good ole man, he jumped out the window with a…. Oh wait this is serious talk?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:58 pm to Penrod
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The truth is that conscientious men and women had long since concluded that Africans were humans and that enslaving humans was a great moral wrong…and they were right.
Took em a while to do that, no?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:21 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Took em a while to do that, no?
It took mankind tens of thousands of years, until Western Civilization decreed it wrong. So, relative to everyone else, the Western world was quick. Americans were quicker than most but not as quick as the English, Scandinavians and Greeks.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:26 pm to Penrod
Only had to murder a few hundred thousand of your own countrymen to get your way.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:36 pm to udtiger
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Absolutely demolished the Constitution
People say this, but ignore that the Bill of Rights had no real standing in the South prior to his election.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:37 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Only had to murder a few hundred thousand of your own countrymen to get your way.
Price of freedom, buddy. And well worth it.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:43 pm to Penrod
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Yet it was never brought to a vote as an amendment before the war by these so called conscientious people, now was it?
Think of the things we have not brought to vote as amendments: Voter ID, Birthright citizenship; and the limiting of the Commerce Clause to bolster States’ Rights. Why? Because these would have 0% chance of passing.
A Constitutional Amendment to ban slavery, when half the states were slavers, would have had no chance to garner the 3/4s of the states necessary.
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And when was this statement made in 1861 before the war began?
I can’t believe you seriously asked that question, because the answer is, “All over Christiandom.” Most notably in Uncle Tom’s Cabin.
You didn't answer either question. All you did was spout some irrelevant bullshite.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:45 pm to Cuz413
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Yet it was never brought to a vote as an amendment before the war by these so called conscientious people, now was it?
It's because southern congressmen would'nt allow it to be discussed on the floor of either chamber. There was a gag order in Congress, if abolition were brought up, the southerners would simply filibuster and shut down the government. In the South it was unlawful to publish abolition materials. It was considered inciteful language. Anyone discussing abolition in the South was subject to lynching with no legal ramifications.
The South was truly a tyranny. It was when Lincoln was elected above the efforts o the South that they realized they couldn't bully the government anymore - so they decided to leave it.
This is what happened when someone tried to discuss abolition in the Senate:
The Confederacy of the United States was a terror organization.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:08 pm to tigersownall
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He was no abolitionist.
Abolition was a central plank in the Republican platform of 1862. That's why the southern states seceded when the Republicans won. They didn't even give Lincoln a chance to take office before they were seceding.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:09 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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States rights
No such thing. Try finding it in the Constitution.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:15 pm to Cuz413
You seem to know everything about the antebellum North, but nothing of the antebellum South.
Typical of Lost Cause historical revisionism.
Typical of Lost Cause historical revisionism.
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