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re: Thoughts? Father publicly spanks kids in Texas
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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we are seeing the effects of an entire generation of unspanked children in our major cities right now.
the folks who raised them were spanked.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:22 am to John88
i bet that guy would be terrified to hit somebody who could hit back
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:30 am to John88
Way too young for that. And for god's sake why in public
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:57 am to John88
A little much for me. My dad was always able to discipline me low key in public, usually with a pinch to the arm or leg that almost no one would see. That with a look, was usually enough. Spankings occasionally in private.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:03 am to John88
Well he's wearing flip flops with blue jeans. Should tell you something.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:20 am to josh336
Lots to unpack from a few seconds of a video but this looks like a shitty father who raised shitty kids and turned into an even worse grandfather (I'm assuming he's the grandfather).
I see a lot of 'I was spanked back in the my day and I'm better for it' types on here. Sounds like you were spanked a lot. Sounds like as a child you didn't understand the expectations of your parents. That or your parents didn't explain their expectations to you and then took their frustrations out on you.
I was spanked as a kid but not often and almost exclusively when I did something I knew I shouldn't have been doing, i.e. being rebellious for rebellious sake. In those cases I knew the potential outcome. Maybe these kids were doing just that and, being as they're in public, the grandfather felt the need to make an example. Who knows really. This seems to have devolved into a discussion about spanking rather than if that man went to far. The person videoing the interaction thought it was enough to warrant documentation. Perhaps this was going on far longer than any of us would be comfortable with. Maybe the guy was being a dick for no reason. Maybe the kids were just assholes. We really won't know. Not from this video anyway.
Spanking at a young age should be course correcting not fear driven. If a child does something that they know isn't allowed by their parents standards and they do it anyway then a swift spanking that catches them by surprise will almost always do the trick. Afterwards, when the situation calms down, the parent should have a discussion with the child about expectations (if they are old enough). If they are young 1-3'ish and are still agents of chaos then enough of these little interactions should set the course for the next few years and into their pre-teens.
Fear based beatings isn't "good parenting" by any stretch. I'm glad that's how it was back in the day but it doesn't make it right. Parenting is hard work but being a good parent is even harder. Lots's of generalizations being floated around about outcomes of kids who were beaten/spanked and those that aren't. It's pretty pathetic really. One generation vs another vs another. There have been shitty parents and people for centuries. But you have to be intelligent to understand that. Seemingly anyway.
I see a lot of 'I was spanked back in the my day and I'm better for it' types on here. Sounds like you were spanked a lot. Sounds like as a child you didn't understand the expectations of your parents. That or your parents didn't explain their expectations to you and then took their frustrations out on you.
I was spanked as a kid but not often and almost exclusively when I did something I knew I shouldn't have been doing, i.e. being rebellious for rebellious sake. In those cases I knew the potential outcome. Maybe these kids were doing just that and, being as they're in public, the grandfather felt the need to make an example. Who knows really. This seems to have devolved into a discussion about spanking rather than if that man went to far. The person videoing the interaction thought it was enough to warrant documentation. Perhaps this was going on far longer than any of us would be comfortable with. Maybe the guy was being a dick for no reason. Maybe the kids were just assholes. We really won't know. Not from this video anyway.
Spanking at a young age should be course correcting not fear driven. If a child does something that they know isn't allowed by their parents standards and they do it anyway then a swift spanking that catches them by surprise will almost always do the trick. Afterwards, when the situation calms down, the parent should have a discussion with the child about expectations (if they are old enough). If they are young 1-3'ish and are still agents of chaos then enough of these little interactions should set the course for the next few years and into their pre-teens.
Fear based beatings isn't "good parenting" by any stretch. I'm glad that's how it was back in the day but it doesn't make it right. Parenting is hard work but being a good parent is even harder. Lots's of generalizations being floated around about outcomes of kids who were beaten/spanked and those that aren't. It's pretty pathetic really. One generation vs another vs another. There have been shitty parents and people for centuries. But you have to be intelligent to understand that. Seemingly anyway.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:31 am to josh336
I’d like to give everyone some examples of real child abuse.
- Allowing your kid to scream at you, talk back to you, and make scenes in public without immediately correcting that behavior on the spot is child abuse
- Rewarding your child’s insolence, and throwing fits in public by buying them what they want at the store is child abuse
- Giving your child everything that pops in their head without making them earn it, thus instilling in them the understanding of how life works is child abuse
- Allowing your child to dictate what they’re going to eat Instead of you is child abuse
- Berating your child in public and/or calling them names, and losing your shite is child abuse
Spankings to correct behavior and making them respect you as a parent is not child abuse. It’s the foundation for a well adjusted and respectful adult.
- Allowing your kid to scream at you, talk back to you, and make scenes in public without immediately correcting that behavior on the spot is child abuse
- Rewarding your child’s insolence, and throwing fits in public by buying them what they want at the store is child abuse
- Giving your child everything that pops in their head without making them earn it, thus instilling in them the understanding of how life works is child abuse
- Allowing your child to dictate what they’re going to eat Instead of you is child abuse
- Berating your child in public and/or calling them names, and losing your shite is child abuse
Spankings to correct behavior and making them respect you as a parent is not child abuse. It’s the foundation for a well adjusted and respectful adult.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:52 am to Mike da Tigah
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- Allowing your child to dictate what they’re going to eat Instead of you is child abuse
Lol. Take a seat.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 7:58 am to John88
I got spanked and I have spanked my own kids. I remember getting spanked pretty bad as a kid but I never did to mine what happened in that video. And if I was in public and they needed a pop on the butt I went the the bathroom with them or brought them to the car.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:00 am to John88
Hand spanking
Walk in the park
Make that little baw pick a switch
Walk in the park
Make that little baw pick a switch
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:07 am to The Third Leg
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Lol. Take a seat.
Whenever you allow children to decide what’s for dinner instead of you, the adult, you not only reverse the roles of who’s running the show, but you put them at a disadvantage in their life by making them picky eaters, and cause them to be weird with food by not experiencing different things. Growing up, what was being served at the dinner table was not a democracy, and we weren’t getting up from the dinner table until we finished eating, so I was exposed to a lot of different foods, and we were taught to be grateful for it. To this day, there simply isn’t much I won’t eat or try at least once, and am grateful for it. I’m really grateful my parents didn’t enable me to eat unhealthy food simply because I wanted unhealthy food for dinner, thus causing me to have unhealthy eating habits and put on weight. It’s because they were in charge, not me.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:13 am to lionward2014
quote:And she's learning that because her dad , grandfather & future boyfriend/ husband hit her doesn't mean they don't love her.
I have a feeling he says he’s a firm believer in not hitting females, unless that female is his 5 year old daughter.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:15 am to John88
After reading all the comments first, I expected a lot worse. He was slapping her feet, it appeared to me. While I get the fact that the spankings were generated out of anger and that’s not a good thing, it’s not like he beat her senseless and should be charged with a crime. I don’t know, I’m not a parent so I don’t really have a fair criticism to give, but I don’t think he beat the shite out of that girl.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:16 am to John88
For public correction, my dad had a pretty effective finger flick to the forehead.
Got the point across and drew far less attention.
Got the point across and drew far less attention.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:30 am to John88
I raised two children, not 20 & 28 yrs old. Both are positive, college degrees, one has masters degree other starts med school January.
I believe in whipping. Just never had to do much of it. It's hard to say about the video, we don't see what led up to it. I can't make a judgement if the man was overreacting, if the boy deserved that level of arse whipping.
I didn't see the girl do anything that warranted her being slapped as she was.
Again, hard to say with limited video.
I believe in whipping. Just never had to do much of it. It's hard to say about the video, we don't see what led up to it. I can't make a judgement if the man was overreacting, if the boy deserved that level of arse whipping.
I didn't see the girl do anything that warranted her being slapped as she was.
Again, hard to say with limited video.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:41 am to Peepdip
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What do you think that kid did to deserve that? Short of murdering an entire family, I can’t think of any context that would make that understandable.
This board is full of white trash pieces of shite
Maybe called someone the "N" word or "white trash pieces of shite".
Either would have gotten me a beating probably worse than that and deservedly so.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:43 am to Mike da Tigah
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Whenever you allow children to decide what’s for dinner instead of you, the adult, you not only reverse the roles of who’s running the show, but you put them at a disadvantage in their life by making them picky eaters, and cause them to be weird with food by not experiencing different things. Growing up, what was being served at the dinner table was not a democracy, and we weren’t getting up from the dinner table until we finished eating, so I was exposed to a lot of different foods, and we were taught to be grateful for it. To this day, there simply isn’t much I won’t eat or try at least once, and am grateful for it. I’m really grateful my parents didn’t enable me to eat unhealthy food simply because I wanted unhealthy food for dinner, thus causing me to have unhealthy eating habits and put on weight. It’s because they were in charge, not me.
Old man—My mom often gave us two choices for dinner and always made us help. By the time I was ten, I did much of our family’s grocery shopping by riding my bike to the store, and I cooked many meals for the entire family by middle school.
My parents, who worked their asses off while I socialized, were quite grateful.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:45 am to John88
Was a little much on the first kid, second kid was appropriate. However, parenting is hard and sometimes you lose your cool. I’m glad I haven’t had a camera on me every time my kids are acting out.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:46 am to Rize
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I got beat way worse than that.
in public??? and at that age?
I got spanked. I got marked up. Took my fare share worse than that, but I was probably a bit older. I also spank my child.
But that kid looked young for that level and I'm not a fan of spanking in a "rage". Calm down then dish out what's deserved. Don't release your frustration on the child. And it looks like that's what he was doing. Didnt even turn the girl to spank he properly, just hit her like he was mad and wanted to hurt her. If he's willing to do that in public, what does he do when he knows no one is watching?
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