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Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:30 am to meeple
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Local den/pack has women leaders, and they have boys of their own. Is this common these days?
My mom was our scout leader over 30 years ago.
I have no idea about current scouts.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:51 am to meeple
I'm an ASM now, was a Cubmaster & Scoutmaster.
Yes, my son likes it. He's working on Eagle atm. I was very involved. Frankly, I don't understand parents who drop off kids without staying to find out what's going on.
Yes, they have women leaders and that is even more prevalent in Cubs. That's not a deliberate choice of scouting, it's because men won't step up to the plate and volunteer. In my experience, the parents who complained about the women leaders or the fact that a gay guy in California went on a campout were looking for any reason to avoid having to get involved with something like this with their kids (or to get out of it). Any excuse would have worked but the social issues were handy and made them feel better about themselves.
The changes are irritating, but at day's end you and your son will get out of this what you put into it. Scouting has forced my son to learn how to lead, how to deal with people from different backgrounds, how to get a group of people from all different ages and backgrounds focused on a single objective and be successful. He was a crew leader at Philmont this summer and spent more time getting the adults inline than the youth! Those are skills that I know will help him succeed in life. The rest of the stuff is just window dressing.
Yes, my son likes it. He's working on Eagle atm. I was very involved. Frankly, I don't understand parents who drop off kids without staying to find out what's going on.
Yes, they have women leaders and that is even more prevalent in Cubs. That's not a deliberate choice of scouting, it's because men won't step up to the plate and volunteer. In my experience, the parents who complained about the women leaders or the fact that a gay guy in California went on a campout were looking for any reason to avoid having to get involved with something like this with their kids (or to get out of it). Any excuse would have worked but the social issues were handy and made them feel better about themselves.
The changes are irritating, but at day's end you and your son will get out of this what you put into it. Scouting has forced my son to learn how to lead, how to deal with people from different backgrounds, how to get a group of people from all different ages and backgrounds focused on a single objective and be successful. He was a crew leader at Philmont this summer and spent more time getting the adults inline than the youth! Those are skills that I know will help him succeed in life. The rest of the stuff is just window dressing.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:02 pm to meeple
My daughter (5) wants to do and listed off shooting, archery, camping….
She’s getting a pink BB gun, pink bow, and pink tent for Christmas and I’ll teach her those things.
She’s getting a pink BB gun, pink bow, and pink tent for Christmas and I’ll teach her those things.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:52 pm to Dam Guide
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Our girl troops struggle here. There are 2 or 3 very small ones
It's the opposite here. Our troop has more girls than boys.
ETA: Eat shite, Lonnie.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:25 pm to meeple
Son just earned Star (2 ranks until Eagle). I was den leader, pack leader and Popcorn Colonel (Fundraising Chair). Now in his Scout Troop, I'm once again Fundraising Chair. Our leaders are a good mix of men & women, but no female scouts- AFAIK, there has not been a demand in our area, so we haven't really had to make the decision.
I don't camp, but I attend at least 1 meeting/month and am active in troop planning. Our troop has had a higher than normal number of Eagle Scouts, and I directly attribute that to the number of parents and volunteers that keep our scouts motivated to advance. Our troop includes 3-4 leaders whose scouts are grown adults, but they're still around to offer their input (for better or for worse, sometimes
), but those old hats offer invaluable advice and first hand experience for our younger scouts and parents. It's been a great experience for our son and for me.
I don't camp, but I attend at least 1 meeting/month and am active in troop planning. Our troop has had a higher than normal number of Eagle Scouts, and I directly attribute that to the number of parents and volunteers that keep our scouts motivated to advance. Our troop includes 3-4 leaders whose scouts are grown adults, but they're still around to offer their input (for better or for worse, sometimes
Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:29 pm to LSUGUMBO
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but no female scouts
Troop level is still segregated by gender, unless the troop had a sister troop and they voted to join the pilot program that just launched this month.
Jan 2026 is when that pilot program ends and we may see coed troops going forward.
Any girls at the scout level will have a separate troop from yours right now.
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It's the opposite here. Our troop has more girls than boys.
Unless you are in the pilot program, your troop has no girls. They have their own troop.
Cubs here there are a lot of girls in the family packs. Girls have a big hand in keeping cub scouts going.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:54 pm to Dam Guide
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Cubs here there are a lot of girls in the family packs. Girls have a big hand in keeping cub scouts going.
That's what we have.
Eat shite Lonnie
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:11 pm to meeple
Your boy will have a great time with cubscouts. you wont.
Both of you will have fun with BSA.
I've been very involved in scouting for the past 8 years. The majority of the boys (12 kids) I have led have all had a blast and stayed in scouts from cubscouts to scouts.
you can be as involved as you want. The only issues I've had in scouts in parents that take leadership positions and dont do anything or dont put any time into it.
Scouts is about camping and outdoor activities. If you bring your kids out to do these things they will have the best time. If you only have meetings and dont do anything the kids will lose interest quickly.
Both of you will have fun with BSA.
I've been very involved in scouting for the past 8 years. The majority of the boys (12 kids) I have led have all had a blast and stayed in scouts from cubscouts to scouts.
you can be as involved as you want. The only issues I've had in scouts in parents that take leadership positions and dont do anything or dont put any time into it.
Scouts is about camping and outdoor activities. If you bring your kids out to do these things they will have the best time. If you only have meetings and dont do anything the kids will lose interest quickly.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:43 pm to meeple
When I was a Cub Scout there were only female den leaders. It was always someone's mother.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:23 pm to meeple
He will learn to make glitter cards with Elmer's glue, how to arrange a flower basket and the best sugar cookie recipe. If you want him around men play sports, if you want to raise a dweeb then go for Cub Scouts run by women
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:43 pm to 75503Tiger
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He will learn to make glitter cards with Elmer's glue, how to arrange a flower basket and the best sugar cookie recipe. If you want him around men play sports, if you want to raise a dweeb then go for Cub Scouts run by women
Get better leaders, we have a few women leaders and they are more outdoorsy than most of the men I know my age.
This summer alone we helped place flags on every grave at the local national cemetery for memorial day, 2 fishing trips, summer camp in old school canvas tents open to the elements, archery, slingshots, bb guns, swimming in a natural spring, a few hikes, various other things I can't remember.
We got shooting sports lined up this fall, a fishing derby, 2 pack tent campouts planned before christmas, working on getting some service projects together to get volunteer hours at our state parks, a bunch more weekend hikes, a long with all the adventures they earn through the regular program meetings.
Congrats on Braxton in travel ball, though.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:00 pm to TheEnglishman
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Your boy will have a great time with cubscouts. you wont.
Exactly my experience. I also don’t like hanging around other adults that I don’t know for fun
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