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re: Those against gay marriage- you're dumb (long)
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:10 pm to Festus
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:10 pm to Festus
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This is the silliest statement and argument that people throw out. People CHOOSE to do things all the time that make them frowned upon. You ever see those goths? People with tattoos all over their face and body? Or any of the counter culture people. It happens all the time.
That's different. A lot of people do like to go against the grain of "normal" society. But gay people face far more adversity than any contrarian.
And there are those who really suffer with being gay. They try to suppress their sexuality because they've been told it's wrong and bad and they need to change. I don't understand how this sect of people could be lumped in with the other anti-norm groups you listed.
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:13 pm to Moustache
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It IS a bad argument. However, I have no doubt that some choose it as a fad and some are truly attracted to same sex because they have a mental illness they were born with.
Oh, I agree.
I'm just pointing out if you ascribe to his line of thinking, anything anyone ever does that is detrimental to them COULD NOT have been a choice. Thus, everyone is a victim.
"Do you think I'd CHOOSE to molest them?"
"Do you think I'd CHOOSE to have a shitty, unkempt yard?"
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:16 pm to Tigerfan56
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pretty ironic that you're not up in arms over any other sins. Adultery, sex before marriage, binge drinking- no problem with these things being legal? A
How do you know? You are no better than the people you are talking about painting everyone with that broad brush.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:16 pm to Tigerfan56
I try to keep it simple, marry whoever you want.
I am attracted to women, I always have been, and even if I wanted to, I couldn't change that. I think people are drawn to who they are attracted to. So, It's pretty simple, a man fricks people that turn him on, same with women. If a hairy arse and sweaty balls do it for you, marry a guy. good luck
I am attracted to women, I always have been, and even if I wanted to, I couldn't change that. I think people are drawn to who they are attracted to. So, It's pretty simple, a man fricks people that turn him on, same with women. If a hairy arse and sweaty balls do it for you, marry a guy. good luck
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:17 pm to Tigerfan56
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That's different.
That's your opinion.
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A lot of people do like to go against the grain of "normal" society. But gay people face far more adversity than any contrarian.
Again, your opinion. There are some that would argue that gays are actually now considered to be social heroes.
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And there are those who really suffer with being gay. They try to suppress their sexuality because they've been told it's wrong and bad and they need to change. I don't understand how this sect of people could be lumped in with the other anti-norm groups you listed.
You may not understand it, but it's at a minimum worthy of debate?
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:21 pm to uway
Didnt read.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:25 pm to Coach Guidry
Let them marry.
In 5 years they will be just as miserable as a heterosexual married couple and divorced shortly there after.
My question is if divorced and have kids who would be considered the mom and get the benefit of the doubt and who would be deadbeat dad and everyone look at like he no good.
In 5 years they will be just as miserable as a heterosexual married couple and divorced shortly there after.
My question is if divorced and have kids who would be considered the mom and get the benefit of the doubt and who would be deadbeat dad and everyone look at like he no good.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:27 pm to Hulkklogan
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I do not see being gay as an immoral act. In my opinion, is something that is natural and cannot be helped. There are gay animals in nature. Did they consciously decide to be gay? No. Nor did the majority of people who are gay choose to be. Why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay? Think about it. Gay people are disadvantaged because they are looked down upon, and sometimes are even looked at as second-class citizens. THAT is immoral. Bigotry.
I don't choose to be given to anger, self-righteousness, and self-centered ness. Does that mean giving in to those inclinations isn't immoral? No.
Am I comparing those inclinations to same-sex attraction? Only to the extent it takes to prove that your reasoning is flawed. That it isn't a choice means a lot of things, including that it is incumbent on Christians to act with love towards gays. It doesn't mean homosexual behavior is not sinful. Again, I'm not trying to get you to agree that it's sinful.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:28 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Exactly.
A Republican needs to shock the world and come out in favor of gay marriage and marijuana legalization. Maybe then we can get a guy in office that knows how to stop spending so much fricking money.
I guess that's supposed to be a joke. I'm just saying something needs to change in order to get votes from the swing states. Obviously the last two elections were a fail. Somethings gotta change to get a republican in office. Why not the unimportant social issues? And yeah, taxing marijuana and not using tax $$ to keep weed smokers locked up wouldn't hurt.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:28 pm to Festus
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I agree 100%. I believe that it is possible that some people are born or acquire a mental condition that causes unnatural attraction to the same sex. The Catholic church does not dispute this. they are called to live a life of chastity and there are plenty of churches willing to help. It isn't an easy cross to bear, but we are all born with our own sins we struggle with. Unfortunately, the homosexuals get ostracized and abused the most IMO.
Well damnit we can't well get mad if we are both being reasonable and level-headed now can we?
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his is the silliest statement and argument that people throw out. People CHOOSE to do things all the time that make them frowned upon. You ever see those goths? People with tattoos all over their face and body? Or any of the counter culture people. It happens all the time.
To insinuate people never choose to go against cultural norms even when they are disadvantaged is just silly.
Fair point. In short: people are morons.
Anyway, I have gay friends and each one of them has told me that if they could choose whether they were gay or not, they'd choose to be straight. They just aren't attracted to the opposite sex.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:30 pm to Tigerfan56
If gays get married, then they get the same tax breaks as us straights.
No one wants that.
No one wants that.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:32 pm to Tigerfan56
I am against gay divorce. once a gay marries it should be for life.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:32 pm to Hulkklogan
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Anyway, I have gay friends and each one of them has told me that if they could choose whether they were gay or not, they'd choose to be straight. They just aren't attracted to the opposite sex.
Look, I have some that tell me the same thing and I believe them. My only point was to the argument you made that people couldn't choose to do something that put them at any disadvantage. That happens all the time.
I personally haven't figured out exactly what's going on, and have conflicted feelings about choice vs. born, etc.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:33 pm to uway
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I don't choose to be given to anger, self-righteousness, and self-centered ness. Does that mean giving in to those inclinations isn't immoral? No.
Am I comparing those inclinations to same-sex attraction? Only to the extent it takes to prove that your reasoning is flawed. That it isn't a choice means a lot of things, including that it is incumbent on Christians to act with love towards gays. It doesn't mean homosexual behavior is not sinful. Again, I'm not trying to get you to agree that it's sinful.
If you want to believe being gay is sinful, then by all means believe so. I will not argue against you because that is your right and your personal opinion, deeply rooted in your religious beliefs and I likely will not be the person to sway your belief. However, the government has no leg to stand on for gay marriage being illegal; it's simply a non-issue for the majority of the secular world, and the government is supposed to be separated from the church.
Keep in mind I'm arguing for gays to be allowed to be married in the eyes of the state/federal government, NOT in the church. Churches can choose whether or not they want to marry gays just as businesses used to choose whether or not they wanted to serve blacks.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:33 pm to Festus
I'm not sure if it's a choice, or if you're born that way. I'm religious, and I believe it's wrong. Just like other things that many people do, including myself, that is wrong. But what bothers me is like what OP said in his first post about being homophobes... c'mon bruh, really? So you mean to tell me that if I don't agree with it, I'm a homophobe? I am in no way, shape, or form afraid of the gay. It's flippin nasty to me. But I don't go around telling people who are gay that I feel this way, or think this way. If you want to be gay, or claim you're born gay, then just be gay. I can deal with it. But it's the super gays I despise. You didn't win anything. You're not the first gay ever...if you want to be taken seriously, then act like it..it's time to take the cape off homie.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:34 pm to Coach Guidry
All gay marriage means to me is that I'll have to buy a few more crappy wedding gifts in my lifetime.
Personal anecdote: I worked with a woman who married a guy less than two months after "meeting" him online. He was her third husband, and she was under the age of 35. Making matters worse, she had a daughter under the age of 5. I couldn't in good conscience go to her wedding...I thought it was a horrible idea. Ten years later, I think she's on husband 4 (or 5)?
I also worked with a guy who had been with his partner for years. They had a nice home together and his partner really turned him around. Before he met the guy, he was partying a little too much and screwing around with drugs. He also caught Hep B while taking care of a sick relative. Ten years later, those guys are still together. Too bad they live in a state where they can't get married.
Personal anecdote: I worked with a woman who married a guy less than two months after "meeting" him online. He was her third husband, and she was under the age of 35. Making matters worse, she had a daughter under the age of 5. I couldn't in good conscience go to her wedding...I thought it was a horrible idea. Ten years later, I think she's on husband 4 (or 5)?
I also worked with a guy who had been with his partner for years. They had a nice home together and his partner really turned him around. Before he met the guy, he was partying a little too much and screwing around with drugs. He also caught Hep B while taking care of a sick relative. Ten years later, those guys are still together. Too bad they live in a state where they can't get married.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:36 pm to timbo
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They had a nice home together and his partner really turned him around.
I'm sure he did
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:38 pm to Tigerfan56
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Maybe we should keep all of them, bring back slavery, deny women voting rights.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:39 pm to Hulkklogan
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the government has no leg to stand on for gay marriage being illegal; it's simply a non-issue for the majority of the secular world, and the government is supposed to be separated from the state.
show me a place where the government will stop you from "marrying" your buddy or anyone else, and I will tell you the law needs to be changed there. Absent some public safety concern, we shouldn't prevent people from doing what they want to do. That's not the issue here. What gays want is not the right to get "married". They already have that. They want society to treat their so-called marriage the same as heterosexual marriages. That's not the same thing.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:49 pm to HatefulTiger
It's the religious nut jobs that stand in the way of two people who love each other from getting married that bothers people. You don't have to support it. But it isn't hurting you and it's more about the rights all people regardless of what sexual orientation they are should have
I seem to be channeling an old quote here ...
" if gay marriage affects your marriage then one of you is gay"
I seem to be channeling an old quote here ...
" if gay marriage affects your marriage then one of you is gay"
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