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This year is the centennial of America's entry into World War I

Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:54 pm
This conflict has almost completely faded from the American consciousness. Granted it is now beyond living memory but the conflict was a watershed moment in American history. When the war began the vast majority of uniformed servicemen were national guardsmen, our planes were rickety and out of date, and we had no tanks to speak of. Yet in less than two years, over four million Americans would volunteer for the armed forces and the United States would spend more money in that time frame than it had in the country's entire history up to that point.

While some Americans began arriving in France in late-1917, it wasn't until January 1918 that American soldiers began arriving in the trenches in adequate numbers to have an impact on the battlefield. In the eleven months between January and November 11, 1918, more than 116,000 Americans would be killed. The vast majority of those would fall in a single battle - the Meuse-Argonne - which also remains to this day the bloodiest single battle in American history.

There is a monument in Washington, D.C. to every major conflict this nation has ever fought - save one. It's time we remembered these men and the sacrifices they made in the never ending march of freedom.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:55 pm to
The Great War
Can't remember who posted this but it's been a great listen.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:56 pm to
People try to forget the abomination that was WW1. Nothing was really accomplished and it was just a miserable clusterfrick with no endgame with millions dead.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:56 pm to
War we should have never gotten involved in

Unfortunately Wilson listened to certain elements in his administration that had the interests of a foreign group of people at heart, not Americans

You could say the current state of our failed affairs and failed foreign policy in the middle east has roots and traces back to the poor choice of entering WW1
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:57 pm to
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There is a monument in Washington, D.C. to every major conflict this nation has ever fought - save one. It's time we remembered these men and the sacrifices they made in the never ending march of freedom.


we really dont have a WWI monument in D.C.? that is absolutely crazy.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:58 pm to
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War we should have never gotten involved in



I mean...that's debatable. We warned the Germans to stop the practice of Unrestricted Submarine Warfare after the Lusitania incident in 1915. They agreed. But once they started it back up again in 1917, American merchants started to die. That combined with the Zimmerman Telegram (a telegram which encouraged Mexico to invade the United States) was reason enough to go to war.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Nothing was really accomplished


This was the price to end imperial Europe.

Ottoman Empire, Prussian Empire, Austro-Hungarian, British Empire (but not the UK), the Emirate of the House of Rashid, the Dervish state, and the Sultanate of Sudan.

All gone. Their absences very much set up the current political crises we now face.

Consider this- if the Ottoman Empire was still around, do we have conflict in the Middle East now?
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Nothing was really accomplished and it was just a miserable clusterfrick with no endgame with millions dead.



You have the French and their arrogance to thank for that. I believe it was an elder British statesmen who asked Georges Clemenceau how there could be peace when all the Allies wanted was revenge. Had the Allies actually listened to Wilson more and took a more conciliatory approach toward Germany and her allies, the whole thing may not have been for nothing. Instead...all it did was delay the inevitable and more violent endgame by about twenty years.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:06 pm to
The Balfour Declaration is why we got into WW1
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:09 pm to
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The Balfour Declaration is why we got into WW1



We got involved b/c the British Empire was our largest trade partner. Had it been flipped and Germany had more money flowing to and from the US we would have sided with them instead.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:09 pm to
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People try to forget the abomination that was WW1. Nothing was really accomplished and it was just a miserable clusterfrick with no endgame with millions dead.



I just did some recent reading on the Battle of Passchendaele, July-November 1917 along the Western Front in Flanders.

Whatever my imagination of literal hell on earth was before reading about this campaign is no longer hell on earth. Somewhere around three-quarters of a million casualties in five months in the pouring rain and mud.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Shotgun Willie
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:14 pm to
If any of you are ever in KC make sure you visit the WWI memorial and museum...it is awesome!

They are supposed to have a huge event at it in April, supposedly Trump is going.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted by TrebleHook
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:17 pm to
I was on a WW1 documentary kick a couple months ago. Probably one of the most miserable wars ever fought
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:31 pm to
The War to End All Wars.

There's actually a very interesting monument to The Great War on the National Mall. Kind of small, and off to the side.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 5:34 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:31 pm to
I've always been more fascinated with WWI than WWII. One of the best classes i had at LSU was Dr Rodiers History of WWI.

Back in the summer of 2014, the centennial of the start of the war i started reading (or rereading) several books on the build up to (July Crisis, Sleepwalkers, Thunder at Twilight) and the start of (The guns of August, The Marne 1914)the war. also read a great book this summer on the Somme.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:33 pm to
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Consider this- if the Ottoman Empire was still around, do we have conflict in the Middle East now?


As much as I am happy we won WWI, the Ottoman's would of kept Islam from becoming radicalized , acting as a so called "Vatican" for Muslums. At least that is my opinion .
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:37 pm to
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much as I am happy we won WWI, the Ottoman's would of kept Islam from becoming radicalized , acting as a so called "Vatican" for Muslums. At least that is my opinion .


Agreed
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