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re: This self-driving truck delivered butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:13 pm to
Butter face it, machines are taking over.

As they spread, we’re toast.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:25 pm to
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How do these things refuel?


It will be pretty simple. Sign an agreement with one of the large gas companies (Exxon, Shell, etc.) to have someone pump the gas and program in the stops on the route.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:27 pm to
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What happens if a light is malfunctioning..or some other human error that would in return need a person's reaction to relieve the situation?


I see you’ve never been in a vehicle with adaptable cruise control.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:29 pm to
Engineer: “blah blah blah”

Driver: “if you don’t stfu you’re walking”

Engineer: “ “. For three days.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45991 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:30 pm to
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This self-driving truck delivered butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days


How many techs were inside the truck making adjustments on a laptop?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:31 pm to
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There will always be operators on board for the first couple generations


I think they will have riders permanently. If not it will be too easy to rob these trucks. Trap them, stop them due to their programming to avoid wrecks. Once stopped break into trailer and help yourself.

Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:05 pm to
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I see you’ve never been in a vehicle with adaptable cruise control. 



So if you rode passenger to an unmanned vehicle, youd have no concerns?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31176 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:31 pm to
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So if you rode passenger to an unmanned vehicle, youd have no concerns?


Fewer concerns than I do in NYC cabs.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:44 pm to
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How do these things refuel?


We're on the verge of revolutionary new battery technology that will at drastically change range of electric vehicles. The future of trucks is electric. Then terminals can have charging stations that these trucks connect to.

Wikipedia



In the meantime, large trucking agencies will be able to contract large truck stops to have attendants to pump the diesel.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11310 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:08 pm to
Let me know when it can safely navigate I-10 from Lafayette to Slidell
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19459 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Truckers will most likely start seeing massive job loss in the next decade.


A huge chunk of the truck driving population will be retiring soon. I think it won’t be that huge of a shock.
This will be only for OTR type trucking jobs first. Still need humans driving chemicals and fuel tankers.

Facing a similar crossroads in the airline world soon. Lots of older pilots retiring while not so many replacing them in the lower ranks. Talk of automation or single pilot airliners is on the horizon.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Still need humans driving chemicals and fuel tankers.


If the trucks can do it more safely, why?

I have an uncle that drives trucks and he chooses to bury his head in the sand about the impending wave of automation, including saying that you'll never replace humans when driving hazardous materials.. it's laughable. The AI never loses focus, sees more all at once than we can, and can process the data and react way faster than a human can. Just comes down to programming.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:48 pm to
What are we worried about here? It’s just a damn semi. The cheaper the cost the better.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:54 pm to
But they make butter in Pennsylvania, waste of a trip.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19459 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:35 am to
I don’t believe the feds will allow it until AI is perfected. But yes, eventually it will happen. But not for decades. Big difference between boxes of butter and sulfuric acid.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14866 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:40 am to
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What do you think a truck driver and an engineer talk about for 3 days?


The body count they rack up along the way.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:13 am to
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don’t believe the feds will allow it until AI is perfected. But yes, eventually it will happen. But not for decades. Big difference between boxes of butter and sulfuric acid.



It won't have to be perfected. If the AI reduces the amount of accidents compared to human drivers, it's a no-brainer.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76156 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:18 am to
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I have an uncle that drives trucks and he chooses to bury his head in the sand
Glad we’re not related.
Posted by BeauxNArreaux
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2016
798 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
I have a friend who is actually a head legal guy for GM that worked on exactly this legislation. He told me they don’t have to prove that it is faultless, only that it is equal or less error prone than humans. GM and Google are currently the two big dogs funding the research in this push... google working more on highway, GM is running more stuff in urban settings bc there is so much more happening that the AI learns at a much faster rate. Once they have enough hours logged to have a good sample size to prove its effectiveness it can go mainstream and it will only improve even more and even faster then.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16587 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
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What do you think a truck driver and an engineer talk about for 3 days?

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