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re: This map shows 20 Louisiana industrial plants that release most greenhouse carbon gases

Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82214 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:42 pm to
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Why can't we srore it in carbonated drinks?
you can and possibly will. A company will likely built a purification plant above the salt dome storage, take the CO2 out of the ground, purify it, then sell it to the retail market in liquid form for carbonation, food freezing, and lab use.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:47 pm to
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11. Motiva Enterprises Convent Refinery-St. James


They won’t be on this list in 2021, I can promise you that


Yeah and they haven't had the name Motiva since about four years ago either.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12850 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:51 pm to
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NOx and SOx have the potential to make acid rain. That should be monitored/reported on, not CO2

I’m going to on a limb and say that you already know that they monitor NOx and SOx emissions.

It’s just that the media/public DGAF about it because acid rain and smog due to plant emissions have largely been eliminated, at least in most places, since the passage of the Clean Air Act. I think most people view it as a 70’s and 80’s problem without realizing it’s still a huge enforcement focus to this day.
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
322 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:56 pm to
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or capture and store


What could go wrong?



Watch for heads to start exploding as the people trying to shut down these plants... slowly realize that regardless of where the co2 comes from, the only realistic material (and mature industrial technology) that we have for long term sequestration is plastic.

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12850 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:58 pm to
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Yeah and they haven't had the name Motiva since about four years ago either.

A lot of plants that get bought/sold over the years wind up retaining their legal entity names for quite a long time. It’s probably a massive headache dealing with permits, taxes, etc. when they change the legal entity.

Keep in mind that most of these facilities have legal entities set up for that specific site - e.g. Valero Refining New Orleans LLC for Valero St. Charles.

I don’t know exactly what the legal entity is for Shell Convent but it would not surprise me if “Motiva” is still in the name at this point.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26688 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 7:58 pm to
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the Top 20 Louisiana industrial plants responsible for carbon dioxide emissions

Probably account for 0.1% of global emissions

Talk to China & India first

Then we'll talk
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:44 pm to
Well, I would have liked to look at which site where on the map, but The Advocate popup bullshite kept me from it.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32261 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:49 pm to
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getting cancer


Surely you aren’t that stupid, or do you work for WAFB?
Posted by strings
Member since Dec 2010
179 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:51 pm to
Please tell me you are not vaccinated!
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5360 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:52 pm to
Ok professor. Please do China now.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
7030 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:55 pm to
It was shut down in March of this year but the Saudi’s gave that plant to Shell and they took over the Port Arthur plant completely 4 years ago.
Posted by CatholicLSUDude
Member since Aug 2018
1036 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:58 pm to
I do the greenhouse gas report for one of these facilities, and they’ve got us mapped in the wrong place.

Jokes on them!
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:16 pm to
China says hold my beer because they live in their own climate.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1819 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:30 pm to
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11. Motiva Enterprises Convent Refinery-St. James


Rest in Peace

It was a good ride
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25612 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Probably account for 0.1% of global emissions

Probably more like 0.00001%
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Talk to China & India first

Probably account for 80+% alone
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
15055 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:38 am to
Look at all those jobs!
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11708 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:40 am to
I'm not going to give NOLA com any money to look at a map
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:43 am to
Lol so basically every large refinery in Lake Charles

And I don't buy the Sasol thing... that is a brand new fricking facility. Now, Citgo? Yeah, that is affirmative
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:52 am to
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4. CITGO Petroleum Lake Charles-Calcasieu


Is this plant that's actually in Sulphur? If yes, during a summer break in college, I took a gig there w Brown and Root as an electricians helper. Horrible decision. All I did was bend and thread conduit and pull wire. God that sucked.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:55 am to
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Is this plant that's actually in Sulphur?

Yep... first exit when leaving LC going into Sulphur. Cities service... that place is old.... and a shite hole lol
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