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re: This is a direct result of the Pussification of America
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:42 pm to WaydownSouth
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:42 pm to WaydownSouth
I respect the effort. He gets an upvote. He gets through to Hollywood dawg.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:48 pm to BlindTiger7
I don’t buy the no underlying issues part for a second. Every person in LA under 70 who died from it all had, you guessed it, underlying conditions.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:57 pm to WaydownSouth
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WaydownSouth
This alpha male needs to go down to his local hospital and volunteer to help COVID patients without a mask.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:59 pm to tigergirl10
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you guessed it, underlying conditions.
This really needs to be defined to have any kind of significant meaning.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:35 pm to MrSmith
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Yeah it’s definitely those Americans doing this and not the doctors, epidemiologists and virologists that study this their entire careers.
I don’t doubt the knowledge or intentions of those doctors, epidemiologists, or virologists. I believe that the measures being taken will, in fact, reduce the impact to hospitals and reduce the death toll of this virus in the long term. You’re right, they’ve been studying this their entire careers.
But you know what they haven’t been studying? Economics. Every year, 30,000-40,000 people are killed in car accidents in the US. An additional 2+ million are seriously injured or permanently disabled. But if the Institute of Transportation Engineers suggested measures similar to those being taken now, we would reject them outright.
For everyone saying “it’s just a temporary setback”... wake up. In south Louisiana alone, tens of thousands will be out of work in the construction business within the next 2 weeks. That’s in addition to thousands of service industry workers who have already been put out of work. And that’s just the direct impact of precautionary measures. What happens when low demand starts its own vicious cycle?
Think about the cost of nationwide loss of productivity plus the cost of stimulus packages that will be implemented to mitigate the fallout. What if we dedicated the same resources to shoring up the healthcare industry? It amazes me that a world war can bring the country out of a depression, while lack of healthcare resources can send us into one.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:41 pm to lostinbr
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Every year, 30,000-40,000 people are killed in car accidents in the US.
do those accidents happen in a highly contagious wave that inundates hospitals over their capacity?
i understand the economic concerns, as should everyone. but these analogies don't hold water. The issue here isn't mortality rates, it's the infectiousness of this thing thats overburdening our hospitals and doctors well beyond what manageable rates.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:43 pm to REG861
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do those accidents happen in a highly contagious wave that inundates hospitals over their capacity?
Did you bother to read the rest of my post?
Also, why does this matter when talking about the TOTAL death toll?
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i understand the economic concerns, as should everyone. but these analogies don't hold water. The issue here isn't mortality rates, it's the infectiousness of this thing thats overburdening our hospitals and doctors well beyond what manageable rates.
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Think about the cost of nationwide loss of productivity plus the cost of stimulus packages that will be implemented to mitigate the fallout. What if we dedicated the same resources to shoring up the healthcare industry? It amazes me that a world war can bring the country out of a depression, while lack of healthcare resources can send us into one.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:52 pm to lostinbr
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Think about the cost of nationwide loss of productivity plus the cost of stimulus packages that will be implemented to mitigate the fallout. What if we dedicated the same resources to shoring up the healthcare industry? It amazes me that a world war can bring the country out of a depression, while lack of healthcare resources can send us into one.
I agree. Honestly if there's one lesson we get out of this it should be bring manufacturing back to America. The dependency on China for fricking everything the hospitals need has crippled us. If we had the number of ventilators, masks, etc we needed for an endemic to begin with we could have greatly mitigated the situation. I absolutely agree about "shoring up the health care industry" in that sense. Clearly we need to expand the capacities of our facilities too.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:56 pm to WaydownSouth
This is a direct result of having no plans/protocols in place for something like this.
This is the direct result of not taking others countries seriously, being naive, and not shutting down our fricking borders & banning international travel to the United States.
All we had to do was pay attention to the reports coming out of the other countries in the world and stop people from entering our country. Yea...that probably would've stirred up some shite too and affected the global market....but it would be much better than the shite storm we are dealing with now.
WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO PREVENT THIS
This is the direct result of not taking others countries seriously, being naive, and not shutting down our fricking borders & banning international travel to the United States.
All we had to do was pay attention to the reports coming out of the other countries in the world and stop people from entering our country. Yea...that probably would've stirred up some shite too and affected the global market....but it would be much better than the shite storm we are dealing with now.
WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO PREVENT THIS
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:57 pm to WaydownSouth
I’m sure President Trump is taking all of these measures and risking his greatest political tool (a good economy) because this virus is nothing.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:02 pm to WaydownSouth
I have watched some CNN this weekend and have seen zero of this. Dude the guy who reports to the President who doesn’t give a shite about politics says this is the best thing to do.
Also go live life. Yeah we can’t got to restaurants or bars but shite I walked 3 miles and played 18 holes of golf.
It sucks what’s happening to the economy but we are Americans and will bounce back.
Also go live life. Yeah we can’t got to restaurants or bars but shite I walked 3 miles and played 18 holes of golf.
It sucks what’s happening to the economy but we are Americans and will bounce back.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:06 pm to Keeble9145
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You mean the one that killed 50 million people and was a million times worse than this one?
Compare cases 3 months in with 1918 Spanish Flu vs Covid-19 which has been around for 3 months and the numbers are very similar.
You can't compare flu numbers over a 1-2 year span vs a virus that has been in the world for only a few months. That's like comparing the stats of 2 football players...and you're comparing one athlete's stats for the season vs another athlete's stats over a 1 month period.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:07 pm to lostinbr
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Also, why does this matter when talking about the TOTAL death toll?
Because you are looking at it in a vacuum. Over burdened hospitals doesnt just equal more covid-19 deaths. It equals an uptick in all preventable deaths based on the fact the hospitals don't have the capacity to save them.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:10 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:this just in. Old people are old
The OT must have zero grandparents or parents over the age of 60.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:18 pm to WaydownSouth
I’m with you bud. H1N1 infected 109,000 Americans a day after its vicious 580 day sweep through America. Unfortunately the Dems were in office and social media was not as advanced back then. Fast forward a decade the Dems and their media partners are viciously pressing this even with a low fatality rate. However, give it two more weeks when peoples cash runs out due to no income you May see rampant violence start fomenting. Once that occurs the government may be forced to reopen society.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:25 pm to TexasTiger90
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They created rock n roll, you idiot.
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Doesn't mean they can't be scared of the very thing they created.
Example: Robert Oppenheimer
You fricking idiot
You're comparing rock and roll to nuclear weapons?
You are absolutely the stupidest SOB to ever grace this forum. I know you're only 13 or 14 years old, but you're really really stupid.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:30 pm to WaydownSouth
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This is a direct result of the Pussification of America
Actually I think it was the direct result of someone eating a bat.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:33 pm to WaydownSouth
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We’ve shut down the country over a virus that has a 97-99% survival rate.
And that’s the survival rate of merely people that actually get infected.
99.9% of all people won’t die from COVID-19.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:34 pm to WaydownSouth
Upvoted a Waydown post
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:41 pm to Ricardo
Terrible analogy. People travel on airplanes constantly. If there was a 3% chance you would die taking a plane, it would be almost a statistical certainty you would die if you took 50 trips. You’re not going to get the virus 50 times.
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