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re: 'They'd Just Fight Until You Killed Them' Battle of Okinawa, WWII
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:18 am to VADawg
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:18 am to VADawg
2 things- I lived in Guam as a wee lad when a soldier surrendered. Also- when I lived in Japan, two off my favorite students were elderly men who were imprisoned in the Soviet Union and worked as slave labor in the mines for more than a decade. The suffering of those times were universal and there is so much to be thankful for today. I could never have had the courage our brave young men had and I remain in awe.
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:41 am to Reubaltaich
Devil Dogs
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:04 am to Reubaltaich
What bitch downvotes this?
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:18 am to VADawg
My wife's grandmother and grandfather had a plantation on Java. Japanese repeatedly raped grandmother, then killed them both.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:22 am to Reubaltaich
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The Japanese Emperor Hirohito saw that they could withstand the onslaught of the Allied invasion of mainland Japan, so he commanded the Japanese Army and the Japanese people to surrender.
It has been contended that the top commander of the Japanese Imperial military forces want to have Hirohito assassinated and keep on fighting to the last person.
Many contend the real reason that the Japanese surrendered was that the Russians were bearing down on Japan with their invasion of Manchuria and had mainland Japan in their sites.
I think this may be the more plausible reason for the Japanese surrender.
The Emperor signaled to allied forces he would conditionally surrender in June of 1945 with the condition being retention of his title of Emperor.
For some reason, Truman saw fit to nuke the island before allowing him to surrender and keeping his title.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:28 am to Reubaltaich
Salesman at the small bank I worked for in Tulsa in the mid 1990's was about to retire (he was like 81 or 82). I sat down and talked with him one day ...
He was left isolated, alone with 1 incapacitated fellow army kid on one of the smaller islands. He would have to sneak into Japanese camps to steal food, water, whatever he could get his hands on. Every hour of every day in fear of death or even worse, capture.
He ate what the Japanese ate which was essentially rice and insects as the enemy was cutoff from supplies too. He eventually buried his comrade in a swamp to keep the enemy from discovering the grave and thus know someone was out there.
9 months he endured. Once off that island he never touched rice nor Asian cuisine again.
He was left isolated, alone with 1 incapacitated fellow army kid on one of the smaller islands. He would have to sneak into Japanese camps to steal food, water, whatever he could get his hands on. Every hour of every day in fear of death or even worse, capture.
He ate what the Japanese ate which was essentially rice and insects as the enemy was cutoff from supplies too. He eventually buried his comrade in a swamp to keep the enemy from discovering the grave and thus know someone was out there.
9 months he endured. Once off that island he never touched rice nor Asian cuisine again.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:57 am to doubleb
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Japanese civilians committed suicide rather than be captured by the Americans. I don’t think they were more scared of the Russians.
Suicide has been culturally acceptable in Japan for centuries, even considered a high honor. So to suggest a connection between suicide and fear of American occupation isnt correct IMO.
Japan is still working on removing the acceptance of suicide from their culture to this day.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:03 am to Reubaltaich
My grandfather saw action at Okinawa and Peleliu, he told me once on Veterans day's that the only reason we were alive is he could paint.
He was 1st division Marine corps, was pulled from the front line, to paint the names of the fallen on crucifixes.
He was 1st division Marine corps, was pulled from the front line, to paint the names of the fallen on crucifixes.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:31 am to TigerintheNO
Okinawa settled into a trench warfare scenario at one point akin to WW1.
There was no possibility of retreat for the Japanese on the island due to the US Navy and air control of the surrounding waters and even discussing surrender was usually dealt with by summary execution, so it was a battle of extermination for the US troops fighting there.
If you were picking places to fight in WW2 as an American, infantry platoon on Okinawa would not be the option to choose. It was probably as close to hell on earth as you could find.
There was no possibility of retreat for the Japanese on the island due to the US Navy and air control of the surrounding waters and even discussing surrender was usually dealt with by summary execution, so it was a battle of extermination for the US troops fighting there.
If you were picking places to fight in WW2 as an American, infantry platoon on Okinawa would not be the option to choose. It was probably as close to hell on earth as you could find.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 7:16 pm to joshnorris14
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:22 pm to tide06
My dad told me that me that after they arrived, and they found out that the locals were terrified of the Americans. The Japanese military told them that the Americans were cannibals and would eat them if they were captured.
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