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re: There's a recent new study on the use of Ivermectin for Covid
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:49 am to lsupride87
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:49 am to lsupride87
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Almost all of those studies don’t have a control group
You're going to have to help me here. And I'm serious - I don't know the answer here.
But they have a whole section of RCTs. Every one of them indicates a control group. What am I missing here?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:57 am to lsupride87
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I have never supported the lockdowns at all. But what does that have to with the vaccine?
"forced vaccine".
I don't see to many people wanting to eliminate the option for people to get the vaccine.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:58 am to stout
They are giving it in my small town In Arkansas and it’s kicking Covids arse.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:58 am to stout
Here are some counter-points to consider. I was excited for the possibility of another tool for the toolbox, but I don't think on the whole that Ivermectin is turning out to be as reliable for covid as people want it to be. This guy lays out the details in a very concise manner.
Medium - Ivermectin Shows No Clear Benefit in the Treatment of Covid-19
Medium - Is Ivermectin for Covid-19 Based on Fraudulent Research?
Medium - Ivermectin Shows No Clear Benefit in the Treatment of Covid-19
Medium - Is Ivermectin for Covid-19 Based on Fraudulent Research?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:59 am to stout
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I agree that with the 72% but the higher percentages when taken as a Prophylaxis is the real statistic to me. That proves that it does what many have been saying which is this...
Is there any other practical benefits to taking Ivermectin daily, as you would a vitamin?
I wonder what the outcomes are for people that take V-D, V-C, and Zinc daily are?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:00 am to stout
any good studies on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine? I have some coming in the mail today
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:01 am to lsupride87
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don’t have a control group
Someone hasn't actually read the studies.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:01 am to Salmon
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Is there any other practical benefits to taking Ivermectin daily
It's not taken daily after the first week from what I understand. You take it for 3 days for the first week then weekly after that.
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I wonder what the outcomes are for people that take V-D, V-C, and Zinc daily are?
For Covid? I would like to see a study on this as well because all I see is anecdotal information
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:05 am to stout
It helps to cure this

This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:06 am to stout
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t's not taken daily after the first week from what I understand. You take it for 3 days for the first week then weekly after that.
that would be considered "early treatment", no?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:07 am to WDE24
My grandpa also had the antibody treatment and immediately got better. Yet the media and politicians just shout about the “vaccine”.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:08 am to Salmon
There's conflicting information I suppose but most of what I have read is a weekly dose works as a preventative.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:09 am to jcaz
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My grandpa also had the antibody treatment and immediately got better.
So did my parents.
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Yet the media and politicians just shout about the “vaccine”.
the antibody treatment is still limited in supply (only available for 55+) and also not fully approved by the FDA
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:10 am to stout
No real issues with people taking this as a preventative if they want other than you’d be ignoring things we have good data on, but once you get sick, kinda dumb to ignore things we know work in favor of ivermectin to “own the libs”
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:11 am to When in Rome
medium is a joke of a website. It is known as a social media journalist website, meaning it is a blog website, not anything close to science.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:12 am to lsupride87
quote:Well that’s just a flat out, unequivocal, bold faced lie...
Almost all of those studies don’t have a control group
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Ahmed], 12/2/2020, Double Blind Randomized Controlled
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[Aref], 6/15/2021, Randomized Controlled Trial
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[Babalola], 1/6/2021, Double Blind Randomized Controlled Trial
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[Biber], 2/12/2021, Double Blind Randomized Controlled
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[Bukhari], 1/16/2021, Randomized Controlled Trial
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[Chaccour], 12/7/2020, Double Blind Randomized Controlled Trial
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[Chahla], 3/30/2021, Cluster Randomized Controlled Trial
quote:That’s just the As through Cs of the studies included in the early treatment portion of the meta analysis (which is the first section), because I’m not taking the time to copy and paste all 67 sources. You can (and should have before commenting on them) look them up yourself.
Chowdhury], 7/14/2020, Randomized Controlled Trial
Of those first three letters, 8 of the studies are randomized controlled while only 3 of the studies are not. Only in the prophylaxis section are there more retrospective/prospective studies than randomized controlled ones. And even still, while randomized controlled studies are obviously preferred, we have enough experience with retrospective and prospective studies to know how to responsibly interpret the results, including accounting for the very elementary critique you are making. They aren’t the gold standard of research, but they aren’t fruity pebble garbage either.
I will never understand why this pandemic has made people speak so confidently about something which they do clearly have so little insight. Checking the sources before making your nonsensical claim would have been exceedingly easy. I can’t fathom why someone would make the claim you did without ever bothering to even check if it were true. Typing your response surely required more time and effort than just checking the sources yourself would have. Be a better critic.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:12 am to Tiguar
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kinda dumb to ignore things we know work in favor of ivermectin to “own the libs”
What else has proven to work once infected and I don't think anyone is willing to refuse effective treatment to own the libs.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:16 am to Ingeniero
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Ingeniero
You know this was a decent discussion everyone from all sides was having and you come in thinking your stereotypes are funny, making a point, and making others look stupid. I think you don't understand they do none of the above and only serve to make you look like the uneducated one not willing to open your mind up.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:17 am to stout
just from a comedic standpoint, the joke was terrible. Incredibly poor delivery.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 8:18 am to Cajunhawk81
Eh, that’s a pretty significant mis-characterization of the Sweden example.
If anything, I think Sweden shows us that this isn’t necessarily a devastating disease IF you are a fit, healthy population. But for whatever reason, telling people that they should exercise and lose weight is viewed as bigoted in our wackadoo version of modernity. And unfortunately, it’s leading to more deaths.
If anything, I think Sweden shows us that this isn’t necessarily a devastating disease IF you are a fit, healthy population. But for whatever reason, telling people that they should exercise and lose weight is viewed as bigoted in our wackadoo version of modernity. And unfortunately, it’s leading to more deaths.
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