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re: There aren’t enough skilled workers and guys under 40 willing to work with their hands

Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:26 pm to
People also don't take into account that physical labor will more often than not frick you up physically.

I could probably do my current job until I die or lose my mind. Tough to remain a baw when you're staring down your 3rd back surgery and your left shoulder hasn't really worked properly since that one job 8 years ago.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Boomers and Gen X. One group that had everything handed to them on a silver platter and act like they invented America and another that saw their parents were fricking everything up but were too lazy to shite about it b/c they were still going to get theirs before everything implodes. They are both pretty good at blaming the younger gens that have almost zero power for all their cock ups though. So there's that.

Bingo
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:31 pm to
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Pay is not the issue, younger people just have shite work ethic.

It costs money to learn a trade. Money that's hard to save when you don't know a trade.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
8705 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:33 pm to
Three Mexicans>one skilled cracker. And cheaper
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:34 pm to
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You wouldn’t believe the simple tasks that the under 40 crowd pay for someone to do. I swear they don’t own any tools…..not even a screwdriver.


I paid someone $300 last night to unclog my toilet. Wasn't even a plumber.



Is this a you don't even own a plunger thing, or your kid flushed a shoe down the toilet and it's way down the line somewhere thing?
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3821 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:38 pm to
My son, 23, is working on his electrical apprenticeship. He's doing his time in attics and the elements. He's doing good making $17 and hour until the end of the year then will be making +/- 30hr. Then he wants to run his own electrical business later.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 2:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281997 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:41 pm to
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People also don't take into account that physical labor will more often than not frick you up physically.


50 years ago, sure. Technology is as dominant today in the blue collar world as it is the white collar.

Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1061 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:53 pm to
My son just turned 23. He has had his plumbers journeyman’s card for about 6 months now. He makes $25/hr, works average if 45 hrs week and has a take home truck which keeps his personal fuel expense down. Company he works for does exclusively new construction. Works M-F and off weekends. With the overtime and few side jobs he does, is on pace to make $60k this year.

Imagine being 23, no college debt, $60k year, wear t shirt and shorts to work most days. Not a bad life. He is a smart kid (street smarts/common sense) and a hard worker. But he isn’t a student. He never would have made it thru college. Not everyone is meant for a desk job/sales job.

And since he has my genetics, he is a good looking kid and snagged him a little cutie that will graduate in May as a dental hygienist. She already has a job lined up paying about $65 year. They are getting married in October. I think they will be just fine.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
20968 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Skilled workers have an opportunity to make a nice living

Correct.

The trades are naming their own price right now. It's like Monopoly money.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83235 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:55 pm to
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He makes $25/hr,


so $5/hr. more than the shake machine repairman?
Posted by CalcuttaTigah
Member since Jul 2009
905 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:00 pm to
I’m 33 and been working in corporate finance for years. If I could switch to a trade without having to move or decrease my family’s lifestyle, I’d do it tomorrow.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:02 pm to
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What do you think is fair?
Whatever the breakeven point is to fill the labor demand with enough labor supply to meet consumer demand.

It’s not a difficult concept.

Exactly. Folks like to talk about what pay is "fair" as if anyone's opinion matters in the market. If what you're offering doesn't get the job done, then it's not "fair".
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Skilled labor workforce has been in decline for far too long


Because you make average money unless you own the company. HVAC technicians in the south make about $40k a year. Nobody is switching careers for that.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96876 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Cause air conditioning is the tits


Until there is nobody willing to service and maintain your air conditioning
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25228 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:08 pm to
I skipped the middleman (trade job) and just went straight to the pill addiction.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96876 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:08 pm to
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paid someone $300 last night to unclog my toilet. Wasn't even a plumber.


You can’t unclog a toilet on your own? If plunger doesn’t work, but a plumber snake from Walmart for 10 bucks and run it down the drain
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43347 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:09 pm to
sure there are
they just all speak Spanish
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96876 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:18 pm to
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Yep. The day I can can charge 300-400 per hour and keep business coming through the door is the day I'll become a mechanic.


My farm mechanic charges 120/hr
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13906 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:26 pm to
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and the over-40 crowd has to ask me to print their spreadsheet to fit one page


I hate that I'm close to that dividing line these days


Somewhere over the last 5 years I fell off that cliff and I swear I’m now retarded with computers. It’s almost like my brain has closed shop on how to learn and maintain basic computer skills.

I use a computer daily for work. I am about to start yelling at clouds.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37596 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:27 pm to
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It costs money to learn a trade. Money that's hard to save when you don't know a trade.


Many trades have apprentice programs. Get paid while learning.

Now where the hell is the board stretcher!!
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