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re: Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes has been charged with criminal fraud
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:29 am to iPadThai
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:29 am to iPadThai
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federal criminal charges
I’ve now read three articles about this broad. Does anyone know what the actual charges are?
Nvm, found it:
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Holmes, Theranos’ founder, and Balwani, the former president and chief operating officer, are charged with two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and 9 counts of wire fraud. If convicted, the pair—who were also linked romantically—face fines of $250,000 per count, plus restitution of over $100 million, and decades in prison. The maximum statutory penalty for both conspiracy to commit wire fraud under 18 USC §1349, and for wire fraud itself under 18 USC §1343 is 20 years per count, and each count could be served consecutively.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:46 am to crimsonsaint
Obama named her Entrepreneur Ambassador. Kinda sums up his economy. A scam
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:48 am to RummelTiger
quote:how do you know it is called a “clutch”?
It's in her clutch
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:19 pm to iPadThai
FINALLY. I was beginning to think she was going to get away with just the civil charges. After reading some in-depth articles a while back, it seemed obvious to me that a massive fraud was being perpetrated, but as we're learning now, criminal investigations involving big money and complicated business schemes can take many years to finish.
The fact that she initially stocked her board of directors with connected ex-government types instead of CEOs and clinical experts made it suspicious from the start, but no one really questioned it until the grandson of board member George Shultz decided to be the whistleblower despite tremendous pressure to keep his mouth shut:
Theranos Whistleblower Shook the Company—and His Family
A few years before this all blew up, a former colleague, a VP-of-Engineering level guy interviewed with Theranos and Holmes. He is a very straitforward, no-nonsense kind of guy. He said she was "fricking nuts." I think she tried to do her hand-waving BS about the technology and he saw right through her. So I think a lot of employees decided to just stick their heads in the sand and hoped to ride out the stock option gravy train.
Elizabeth Holmes deserves to rot in prison for many years for all those fraudulent blood tests.
Theranos Has Junked Two Years of Blood Test Results
The fact that she initially stocked her board of directors with connected ex-government types instead of CEOs and clinical experts made it suspicious from the start, but no one really questioned it until the grandson of board member George Shultz decided to be the whistleblower despite tremendous pressure to keep his mouth shut:
Theranos Whistleblower Shook the Company—and His Family
A few years before this all blew up, a former colleague, a VP-of-Engineering level guy interviewed with Theranos and Holmes. He is a very straitforward, no-nonsense kind of guy. He said she was "fricking nuts." I think she tried to do her hand-waving BS about the technology and he saw right through her. So I think a lot of employees decided to just stick their heads in the sand and hoped to ride out the stock option gravy train.
Elizabeth Holmes deserves to rot in prison for many years for all those fraudulent blood tests.
Theranos Has Junked Two Years of Blood Test Results
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:30 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Elizabeth Holmes deserves to rot in prison for many years for all those fraudulent blood tests
Truth.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:08 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:I wonder if this more of a bad process undertaken by this particular company, or problems with the concept of the process such that it can't ever be executed reliably
Elizabeth Holmes deserves to rot in prison for many years for all those fraudulent blood tests
Truth.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:14 pm to East Coast Band
Not bad maybe but she wouldn't turn one head anywhere
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:42 pm to Byron Bojangles III
This bitch hadd all that money, she should have set herself up good somewhere with no extradition.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:52 pm to tigerpimpbot
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She has a man voice and was banging that old Indian dude
Does she have a man voice! I saw her in an interview a few years ago... And if I had to call somewhere and she answered, not knowing it was her on the other line, I would easily mistake her for a dude..
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:54 pm to Robin Masters
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Bitch was worth over a billion dollars at one point. Damn, talk about someone who “coulda been a contenda”.
This is what I don't understand. She was young when she created this business and was able to get a lot of investors. If she was smart enough to do that, it seems like she could have actually done something legit and became successful.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:03 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I read an article in the last week about her recent activities. She has been meeting with venture capitalists and investors around Silicon Valley. She’s already cooking up another scheme.
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually invest any money with her. However, the main point of the article was it can’t be ruled out. She proved she’s a great con artist with Theranos. Why would anyone even meet with her? People couldn’t believe anyone would take a call from her, much less have a meeting to discuss details.
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually invest any money with her. However, the main point of the article was it can’t be ruled out. She proved she’s a great con artist with Theranos. Why would anyone even meet with her? People couldn’t believe anyone would take a call from her, much less have a meeting to discuss details.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:11 pm to Ghost of Colby
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I read an article in the last week about her recent activities. She has been meeting with venture capitalists and investors around Silicon Valley. She’s already cooking up another scheme. I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually invest any money with her.
You should google /Tim Draper Theranos/. He did an interview on CNBC a few weeks ago where he continued to sing Elizabeth’s praises and claimed she was a victim. It was Twilight Zone level gaslighting.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:31 pm to Ghost of Colby
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I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually invest any money with her. However, the main point of the article was it can’t be ruled out. She proved she’s a great con artist with Theranos. Why would anyone even meet with her? People couldn’t believe anyone would take a call from her, much less have a meeting to discuss details.
You would think so but...
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Believe it or not, that’s not the most astonishing thing in the Elizabeth Holmes story. According to Carreyrou, Holmes is currently waltzing around Silicon Valley, meeting with investors, hoping to raise money for an entirely new start-up idea. (My mouth dropped when I heard that, too.) As the dust settles in the Theranos saga, it’s clear that the original investors in Theranos were gullible enough to hand over almost a billion dollars in funding, partially because, when it comes to Silicon Valley, there’s always a sucker hoping to get rich quick. Given that, I’m sure she will somehow succeed in convincing someone to hand over millions of dollars, especially if venture capitalists like Tim Draper (an early Theranos investor) are still out there saying the stories by Carreyrou were wrong (they weren’t), and that Holmes was on the precipice of saving the world (she wasn’t) before the media came after her.
LINK
here is Draper from a CNBC interview
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“We have taken down another great icon.”
“She got bullied into submission.”
“And look at what she did! She created an incredible opportunity.”
“Wait. Why is it worthless? It’s worthless because this writer was like a badger going after her, like a hyena going after her, and then it became a bigger and bigger thing.”
“It was a great vision, it was a great technology.”
“I think it was a great mission, and she did a great job.”
LINK
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When I asked if she feels guilty for all the people’s lives who were affected by those lies, including the investors who lost money, the nearly 1,000 employees who lost their jobs, and the patients who were given completely inaccurate blood results, Carreyrou’s response surprised—shocked?—me. “She has shown zero sign of feeling bad, or expressing sorrow, or admitting wrongdoing, or saying sorry to the patients whose lives she endangered,” he said. He explained that in her mind, according to numerous former Theranos employees he has spoken to, Holmes believes that her entourage of employees led her astray and that the bad guy is actually John Carreyrou. “One person in particular, who left the company recently, says that she has a deeply engrained sense of martyrdom. She sees herself as sort of a Joan of Arc who is being persecuted,” he said.
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The Theranos story isn’t over just yet. While she recently settled with the S.E.C. for “massive fraud” as part of the agreement, Holmes is not required to admit wrongdoing, but she has been forced to surrender voting control of Theranos and comply with a 10-year ban from serving as director or officer at any public company (Theranos, ironically, wasn’t public.) Holmes also agreed to return 18.9 million shares of stock, once worth almost $5 billion and now worth nothing, and to pay a small $500,000 penalty. Of course, there is still a major criminal investigation underway by the F.B.I., one that could end with Holmes behind bars. But not to worry: Holmes has lots of prosecutorial quotes she can borrow from Joan of Arc if she stands trial. “I am not afraid . . . I was born to do this.”
These frickers are delusional.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:53 pm to danilo
If anything her right index finger is the fricked up monstrosity.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:18 pm to Ghost of Colby
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She proved she’s a great con artist with Theranos. Why would anyone even meet with her?
A lot of rubes think they're smart enough to ride along on somebody else's con. Sometimes they eventually figure out it's their money the con is taking.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:20 pm to OweO
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This is what I don't understand. She was young when she created this business and was able to get a lot of investors. If she was smart enough to do that, it seems like she could have actually done something legit and became successful.
Wrong. If you have no morals or ethics, making money is easy. Not getting caught or getting out before your fraud is discovered is hard. She did a great job at selling a fantasy. The investors were too fricking stupid to think it out logically or to vet the science behind it. To those of us with knowledge in the area, it sounded like bullshite. Too good to be true. Especially when you couldn't get hard details on how it worked.
ETA...would still hit it. I don't care if she sounds like James Earl Jones.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:34 pm to SmackoverHawg
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The investors were too fricking stupid to think it out logically or to vet the science behind it.
They probably saw a young girl who they would never believe was trying to scam people.
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ETA...would still hit it. I don't care if she sounds like James Earl Jones.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:19 pm to OweO
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This is what I don't understand. She was young when she created this business and was able to get a lot of investors. If she was smart enough to do that, it seems like she could have actually done something legit and became successful.
Legit would not have gotten her the Time Magazine 100, all the press, recognition from Obama, etc. And that's what's interesting about this story to me, is all the reporters and politicians who hyped her up share some complicity in the fraud.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:29 am to iPadThai
She is the victim. White males are the true criminals.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 1:22 am
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:34 am to danilo
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She is the victim. White makes are the true criminals.
What’s a white make?
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