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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:12 am to The Spleen
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:12 am to The Spleen
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. The scale it favors will just be for the business owners and executives.
As long as they can mass import labor you may be right. But you support that as well.
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:12 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ok, now consider they only give you 25 hours and week and no benefits, that 16/hour doesn't sound quite as nice now
If the alternative was *zero* then there'd at least be some consideration.
As it is, the alternative is far more attractive, but please continue to tell us that has nothing to do with it, and the same restaurants that were fully staffed a year ago are the ones causing their own problems.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:12 am to thadcastle
Ordered take out from Chillis (OT poor/loser) Friday afternoon and they had very few people working.
The bulldyke tried so hard to accommodate the orders, bless her/his/it's heart.
The bulldyke tried so hard to accommodate the orders, bless her/his/it's heart.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:12 am to Powerman
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Sounds like the problem is with the companies not being willing to make adequate investments in their employees
There's a lot of lazy people out there, theres no doubt about that.
But this boards obsession with knighting for corporations who's C Suites pay has gone up by multitudes in the last 20 to 30 years and has continually made record profits while its workers wages have stagnated is so odd.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:13 am to Powerman
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Yeah...go figure a job with low pay, no opportunity for overtime, menial benefits if any at all isn't going to attract people to stay long term.
They were fully staffed a year ago.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:14 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
Ok, now consider they only give you 25 hours and week and no benefits, that 16/hour doesn't sound quite as nice now
I usually don't agree with you but you're dead right on this - restaurant jobs aren't giving anyone but management full time jobs, and most of them are placed on a low salary and exploited because the max hours/week before overtime doesnt' apply to them. The hourly workers are capped at 20-30 hours per week and have to have multiple jobs to make ends meet, and if their schedules overlap and they cant be at two places at the same time? Well, they're going to eventually get fired and have to find another job that's going to treat them like shite.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:14 am to c on z
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When companies refuse to compete for prospective workers (i.e. increased wages and benefits) it’s a matter of time before they get left behind by others who are willing to do so.
You're an idiot they are competing against other companies they are competing against the government that doesn't require them to work for their wage.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:14 am to CptRusty
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If the alternative was *zero* then there'd at least be some consideration.
As it is, the alternative is far more attractive, but please continue to tell us that has nothing to do with it,
I've never argued it has nothing to do with it, only that it's not the only factor
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:15 am to CptRusty
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They were fully staffed a year ago.
Time away from a shite industry like that gives people time to reflect
UE benefits or not
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:17 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Poor people who like to think they're rich. It's gotten so bad good, decent Southernfolk have become infatuated with a Carpetbagger whose sole business philosophy became filing bankruptcy, stiffing the working man and then calling himself a genius.
But this boards obsession with knighting for corporations who's C Suites pay has gone up by multitudes in the last 20 to 30 years and has continually made record profits while its workers wages have stagnated is so odd.
The shortage is just short-term worker shortages in isolated sectors, namely leisure and hospitality. In other words, jobs that pay little with a significant level of exposure to the Karens and Kens. I can't imagine why these people haven't rushed back to their jobs. You're not going to find any labor shortages at businesses that pay a decent wage and treat people well.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:18 am to The Spleen
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The scale it favors will just be for the business owners and executives.
How big a failure in life do you have to be to have this fatalistic outlook on markets?
The government has given you probably over 10k this year, in cash, and you're complaining about the government helping businesses they forced to close?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:20 am to Powerman
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Time away from a shite industry like that gives people time to reflect
UE benefits or not
You're just making shite up.
UE benefits actually did expand. There is no "or not" they did.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:20 am to thadcastle
If $600 a week unemployment is causing staffing shortages then maybe you're not paying enough? Just a thought.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The government has given you probably over 10k this year, in cash, and you're complaining about the government helping businesses they forced to close?
They give billions to businesses every year. Hell, when some become insolvent, they literally just give pay their bills.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
How simplistic does your thinking have to be to think I was merely talking about the dynamics of the past year? Remember when the big banks bilked the economy out of billions of dollars, and they were all let off the hook? Worse, congress went a few years later and relaxed regulations on them so they could go right back to doing almost the same thing they were doing prior to the previous crash.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:22 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I've never argued it has nothing to do with it, only that it's not the only factor
If you had to give it a percentage, what would you say?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:22 am to CptRusty
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You're just making shite up.
UE benefits actually did expand. There is no "or not" they did.
That's not what he's saying, damn you are dumb.
That's like 3rd grade comprehension
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:22 am to CptRusty
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You're just making shite up.
UE benefits actually did expand. There is no "or not" they did.
I'm not disputing the existence of the enhanced UE benefits
I'm saying that time away from a shitty industry will make people contemplate their future employment choices. If you're on UE and looking for a job you have the luxury of holding out for something better than what you were doing previously. And if you've saved you have the luxury of holding out for a couple of months even after the enhanced benefits expire.
People will demand better compensation even after the UE benefits run out
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:23 am to nikki6
quote:You think that $600 per week unemployment is free?
If $600 a week unemployment is causing staffing shortages then maybe you're not paying enough? Just a thought.
You are going to pay for it whether you like it or not.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:24 am to Mingo Was His NameO
OK let me break down the post for you since you apparently need help:
^ This is the shite he's making up
^ this is nonsensical because UE benefits did expand. He has no way to know anything about the "or not" case. The only exception being pre-pandemic, but that data would support my case.
Let me know if I need to lead you by the nose through any more posts.
quote:
Time away from a shite industry like that gives people time to reflect
^ This is the shite he's making up
quote:
UE benefits or not
^ this is nonsensical because UE benefits did expand. He has no way to know anything about the "or not" case. The only exception being pre-pandemic, but that data would support my case.
Let me know if I need to lead you by the nose through any more posts.
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