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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:20 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:20 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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No one raised a lot of these people
The main problem here.
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:22 am to JiminyCricket
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Correct, it's almost like there are so many people being raised in single parent homes that lead to less educational and economic achievement that you'd expect people are being subsidized/rewarded for not being sexually responsible and planning for a family before having kids. Oh wait.....
I don't disagree with most of that, but its not very productive to say it's how you were raised and then blaming other people for not knowing those things becuase of no fault of their own.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:22 am to East Coast Band
Thanks, 70 million legal and 11 million fraudulent voters!
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:25 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Neither do you to be fair
elaborate
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:25 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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becuase of no fault of their own.
Who is at fault? How do we fix it?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:26 am to thadcastle
Self-serve Subways!
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:26 am to TigerBait1971
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Who is at fault? How do we fix it?
The correct answer involves decisions that will get politicians booted out of office, so it will never happen.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:30 am to TigerBait1971
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Who is at fault?
Their parents
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How do we fix it?
I don't know that we can, there will always be bad people, but telling those kids how shitty they are and they have no chance and they're freeloaders definitely isn't the way
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:30 am to CptRusty
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elaborate
Pretty self explanatory, you don't understand economic principles
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:31 am to Purplehaze
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Many states have ended the enhanced unemployment programs. What if there is still a labor shortage?
We will see. I know LA hasn’t ended theirs. Also, welfare and SS for “disabled” individuals and all the other programs people can enroll in pay upwards of $40,000 a year. I imagine a lot of people that worked some of these lower paying jobs never had the time or inclination to apply to these programs or even knew they existed, but enrolled in them once the pandemic started.
I’m curious to see what the increase in enrollment in already existing welfare programs has done.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:32 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Pretty self explanatory, you don't understand economic principles
OK, is there something I've posted that makes you think that (and if so, what?), or are you just talking out of your arse?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:32 am to CptRusty
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OK, is there something I've posted that makes you think that
Go back and read your posts in this thread, those
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Go back and read your posts in this thread, those
so just talking out of your arse then. got it.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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but telling those kids how shitty they are and they have no chance and they're freeloaders definitely isn't the way
Who tells them this?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:36 am to TigerBait1971
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Who tells them this?
Read a lot of posts in this thread
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:39 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Nobody is telling a highschool kids this. Everyone is talking about adults that can’t provide for themselves this.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:39 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't disagree with most of that, but its not very productive to say it's how you were raised and then blaming other people for not knowing those things becuase of no fault of their own.
On the surface I can say I don't disagree that some folks are definitely behind the 8 ball due to being born into families they didn't choose, but that can't just be the excuse forever. At some point, society as a whole needs to come the grips with reality and start calling some of these things out for what they are. We can't continue to celebrate and glorify lifestyle choices that lead statistically to shitty outcomes.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:43 am to Doublebagger
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keep hearing work shortage, I honestly believe its just for dead end jobs.
I know of at least one marine transport company that is short handed on all it's boats. And those jobs pay significantly more than $15/hour.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:44 am to The Spleen
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So that is justification to pay them below a living wage where most are forced to seek welfare assistance to supplement their income?
JFC you people. Those corporations are subsidizing the government while setting anti-competitive wage floors. They are eating the spread between the price floor and the fair value of those low skilled wages. Create a UBI at $50K and all of a sudden you have job and industry consolidation and people sitting at home with higher incomes that are unproductive. That doesn't create wealth and now they are priced out of a job because their skills don't justify the minimum wage. And libs gnash their teeth over wealth concentration
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:45 am to JiminyCricket
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On the surface I can say I don't disagree that some folks are definitely behind the 8 ball due to being born into families they didn't choose, but that can't just be the excuse forever. At some point, society as a whole needs to come the grips with reality and start calling some of these things out for what they are. We can't continue to celebrate and glorify lifestyle choices that lead statistically to shitty outcomes.
It really isn't even this. There are powerful incentive structures set up that make the "welfare" lifestyle more attractive than the admittedly difficult road out of poverty.
The *only* way to solve this is to reduce the attractiveness of the welfare route. The policies would take probably at 2-3 decades of some pretty extreme growing pains to manifest meaningful results, but we'd come out of the other side a better country. Unfortunately there is *zero* political incentive to actually solve these problems. They're far too useful of a tool to pander for votes.
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