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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:08 am to Powerman
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:08 am to Powerman
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It's 300 a week
Correct. Now add that to the base unemployment payment...
Here, I'll help you out: LINK
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But you will have to compete with the big box stores. And if you can't compete with them then frick you and your business.
For the one-millionth time: This wasn't a problem before the pandemic and expanded unemployment benefits
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:09 am to CptRusty
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Correct. Now add that to the base unemployment payment...
And that 300 is going away shortly
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:10 am to thadcastle
Some blame must be placed on the companies trying to save money during 2020 by cutting hours, pay, and benefits while adding more workload & responsibility to those they didn’t lay off.
Rather, they could have just stood up and told .gvt to frick right off with their communist policies that shut them down.
Now they’re whining no one wants to work for scraps.
Rather, they could have just stood up and told .gvt to frick right off with their communist policies that shut them down.
Now they’re whining no one wants to work for scraps.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:11 am to Powerman
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You can't just neglect a maintenance need because the costs are more than you'd like.
I guess it depends. My frame of reference is Oil and Gas, and if federally mandated maintenance on, say, a subsea well becomes too expensive, they will P&A that thing.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:12 am to DiamondDog
quote:These numbers become over inflated when material costs skyrocket. A builder/GC/client will want to review the project cost when they become unreasonable like they have in the last 8-9 months.
I’ve always disagreed with this approach. You may review material costs as they escalate but you can’t expect a sub to ever “lock in” raw good prices beyond 30 days without upfront payment.
The best way is to make sure you just cap their profit % on materials. Usually 7.5% but standard allowance is 10%.
It may not be as affordable to build out a large project as it was when the initial bid was accepted and the contract was signed. i.e. Nov '19 is an example of a contract our company executed which has been amended due to material cost increases.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:12 am to Buzzed
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ather, they could have just stood up and told .gvt to frick right off with their communist policies that shut them down.
and when the police show up with guns, then what? Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:14 am to Buzzed
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Rather, they could have just stood up and told .gvt to frick right off with their communist policies that shut them down.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:14 am to CptRusty
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I guess it depends. My frame of reference is Oil and Gas, and if federally mandated maintenance on, say, a subsea well becomes too expensive, they will P&A that thing.
Let's say you're in a refinery and you need to do scheduled maintenance.
Obviously you don't have that luxury
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:14 am to Powerman
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And that 300 is going away shortly
and people will either go back to work or get evicted.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:16 am to Powerman
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Let's say you're in a refinery and you need to do scheduled maintenance.
Obviously you don't have that luxury
Granted it would take a lot, but it is conceivable that mandatory maintenance costs would shut down a refinery, but we're really getting off on a tangent here.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:20 am to CptRusty
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and people will either go back to work or get evicted.
You're neglecting another factor
Many people are living at home much longer now
Are their parents going to evict them?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:21 am to Powerman
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Do small businesses work for anyone other than the business owner? If they can't compete with companies like Walmart and Amazon who are in their own right notoriously not great employers, then maybe your small business doesn't have much to offer to the worker.
This is some of the dumbest shite I've ever read on the OT and that's saying something.
Do you own a small business? Know anyone that does? I'm guessing you probably don't. Our small business provides my wife and I a great income. My wife puts in countless hours making it successful. We also put a lot of time, effort, and money into our local community (everything from sponsoring the local t-ball team to fund raising to complete a sidewalk project). Small businesses give back, large corporations don't.
Also, small businesses are key to Democracy. You don't want to live in a world where everyone works for either the gov't or a large corporation that's controlled by the gov't. The last two years have convinced me that the federal gov't is actively trying to destroy small businesses. Between the 'non-essential' shutdowns and now the labor shortage due to the gov't entering the labor market, I'm not sure what else they could do to hurt us...... Oh yeah, raise taxes (they are), deficit spend to cause inflation (they are), and who knows what else they'll do in the future.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:21 am to thadcastle
Going to be a different story when the extra unemployment expires and I can’t wait
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:23 am to CptRusty
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And that 300 is going away shortly
quote:Thank God! If they loafed around and did nothing for months while they took government assistance they will be right back at the drive-thru taking orders OR they'll go back to cleaning toilets & changing linens on hotel beds for a living to make ends meet.
and people will either go back to work or get evicted.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:24 am to yellowfin
There are those in here who would have you believe it won't make a bit of difference.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
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There was an article last week on the labor shortage, particularly in the hotel and restaurant industry. Seems a lot of restaurant workers felt incredibly better while not working last year and realized the toll restaurant work took on their bodies and many have decided to pursue other careers.
I understand that having to work sucks sometimes, and restaurant work is not ideal for a lot of people, but I don't remember people bitching and moaning about the toils and unfairness of service industry work until fairly recently. You would think that the service industry was slave labor or sweatshop work if you go by social media and major media outlets these days. shite isn't THAT bad, unless you are a giant pussy.
Would I want to work in the service industry right now? No, which is why I found another job and got out of it. But I surely didn't whine about it when I was working at restaurants.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:32 am to CptRusty
quote:Most of us knew what would happen when the country shut down and when the stimulus checks poured out to some people, when unemployment was subsidized and the government issued a moratorium on evictions.
There are those in here who would have you believe it won't make a bit of difference.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
It created an entire sector of the workforce that became lazy, unmotivated and totally uninterested in going back to work. Now they'll have no choice if they want a roof over their heads, a cellphone in their hands and food on the table.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:33 am to Aubie Spr96
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Do you own a small business? Know anyone that does? I'm guessing you probably don't. Our small business provides my wife and I a great income.
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Do small businesses work for anyone other than the business owner?
Notably you didn't mention that your business was great for your employees. Maybe it is. I just find it humorous that you didn't bother to mention it in your long rant.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:34 am to p&g
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I get the initial surge if folks not working.... but now this is still happening?
I don’t get it.
Businesses are not paying enough. Everything that matters has drastically increased in price. Food, housing and energy have skyrocketed since the previous and current administrations decided it was a good idea to make money out of thin air. Businesses need to pay more to get staffed. The businesses that are paying more have much better staffing.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:36 am to Powerman
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And that 300 is going away shortly
I dont know if I'd call September "shortly" but FPUC has already been extended by this administration. Congress needs to make it clear now that they wont sign of on that again so states dont suddenly find themselves in a buyers market for labor when it expires. You and your lefty friends arent going to like what that does to wages.
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