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re: The US had months to develop a quick method to vaccinate

Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:10 pm to
The objective with most of these things is to get consultants and subs paid. You don't get that by being fast.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26014 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:14 pm to
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My hospital actually got the freezer, though. It’s the actual administration of vaccines that is a cluster in LA.

The hospital should have worked directly with the LDH to receive the vaccine. It makes no sense to have Walgreens involved
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
545 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:20 pm to
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The hospital should have worked directly with the LDH to receive the vaccine. It makes no sense to have Walgreens involved


I agree - that was a decision made by our corporate office in Nashville. They did not want staff involved in administration. So now we have a hospital full of nurses who are not allowed to administer the vaccine, which sits on a shelf for 3 weeks until a Walgreens pharmacist can fit it into the schedule.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16246 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:24 pm to
Vaccines that give bels palssy unusually come out slower
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35802 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:41 pm to
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If you didn't care you wouldn't reply. I just don't understand why everyone - like you- feels so dedicated to fighting for the idea that the vaccine is even needed. When the choice is the obliteration of American prosperity or some people die from underlying conditions that is no contest.

Christ, if I get covid and have a bad reaction I'll die. The end. Who fricking cares? I would rather my kids have a country that is worth a shite...


Give it up. To the Chinese Flu True Believers it's a matter of faith. They could care less about statistical realities or, more importantly, your rights. The vaccine is the holy sacrament of their emotional religion.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4712 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:46 pm to
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Nobody wants it


My pharmacy has a waiting list of 2700 people as of closing today and the other pharmacies I spoke to today have similar numbers waiting. State only gave 106 pharmacies 100 vaccines. The demand is there.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4712 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:48 pm to
It’s a giant clusterfrick bc all local doctor offices are calling us to get on a list bc they aren’t getting any in their office. Who knows what the actual truth is
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3612 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 5:00 am to
We gave 200 doses the week of the 4th. We are giving almost that many this week. We begin 2nd shot boosters next week.

We’ve expanded distribution from direct health care workers, to MD office staff, and now teachers and childcare workers.

Seems to be going fine to me.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2450 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:38 am to
The current vaccines are approved under an Emergency Use Authorization. You’re not going to call your local doctor and get one at this point. These were intended for front line health workers initially, followed by nursing homes, and then the elderly starting in January. This could all be managed centrally. Anyone who thinks they are going to get the vaccine from their GP right now is naive.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4712 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:47 am to
Most metro GP don’t vaccinate anymore whether it’s flu, pneumonia, shingles or now covid. They send the patients to us to get vaccinated. I don’t know if rural GP still vaccinate but mine said they’ll never do another one in office.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43316 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:11 am to
Never underestimate the ineffectiveness of gov't. EVER.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25482 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:15 am to
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Yeah, the Federal Government stepping over states and all other agencies and using the United States Military to forcibly vaccinate citizens with sounds like a great idea.


It's the perfect scenario, if that's what was actually said.

It's a win for the Left either way:

"Trump is a tyrant by using the military to inoculate Americans on American soil."

Or if it doesn't happen (current scenario):

"Trump has failed to live up to his promises, and it's clear the federal government has no plan."
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17182 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:18 am to
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Yeah, the Federal Government stepping over states and all other agencies and using the United States Military to forcibly vaccinate citizens with sounds like a great idea.



There are enough conspiracy lunatics already.

I don't see the reason we need military doctors or nurses actually injecting people in the US when we already have thousands of nurses, doctors, hospitals, and pharmacies that can handle this like they do the flu vaccine. That wasn't what the Feds wanted to do, although it may have been suggested. It's a bad idea and a misuse of our military infrastructure.

If we were trying to vaccinate or distribute food to remote parts of Africa, the Sudan, or Alabama, the military would make sense. For now, we only need their help to facilitate a more efficient, secure supply chain during the earlier days of vaccine distribution when there was concern people might steal it.

By now, everything should be going through typical supply chains that other refrigerated drugs go through. They've had this vaccine for weeks now and are ramping up production. They haven't had a security problem other than that conspiracy nut in Wisconsin.

Remember, even if you don't get the vaccine until March, other people in your community are getting it (teachers, doctors, nurses, paramedics) and are helping prevent the spread. So you are indirectly benefiting from the vaccine now even if you aren't in a group that gets it.

And for the record, Texas is doing a better job than most states on communicating what people are being prioritized for the vaccine supply as it arrives. Louisiana is actually not doing that badly at it despite my complaints about JBE's authoritarian politics. Florida is actually doing pretty well too given the high demand for the vaccine there and the aging population of the state. No state is going to pinpoint a specific date for any particular person because they aren't certain how many doses they will get in the meantime.

Based on what I've seen and read, everyone that wants a vaccine will likely have it by late April, if not earlier. They are prioritizing the first shipments to nursing home patients, the elderly, and front line workers as they should be. Next step will probably be teachers, day care workers, essential employees in the food service industry and factory workers that have to be in close proximity with others. After that, the rest of us that are working from home and would like to return to normal will start getting it - likely by March.

My only complaint during this whole thing is the lack of communication from the states. But they have been improving that rapidly over the past few days. Even Louisiana.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6823 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:18 am to
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Texas....439,000 doses administered already. 254 of 254 counties already administered doses. But yeah, nobody wants it. You just hang around with idiots. And to the OP, this is how it's done. Blame your state for their failure to have a plan.


Correct. And very soon there will be some large scale vaccination centers set up in Houston. I think Minute Maid Park will be one. This is being done by the City of Houston. As a Rodeo volunteer, I received an email asking for volunteers for the sites. They are asking for:

1. Licensed Medical Professionals to give vaccines
2. Logistics help...moving things, directing crowds, etc.
3. Administrative help...having folks fill out paperwork, telling them about the vaccine, etc.

If you volunteer, you are Tier 1a in Texas (a healthcare worker) and can receive the vaccine.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 11:02 am
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6823 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:22 am to
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Sure, there is a first-wave that REALLY wants it. What is not happening is the second wave... People are ambivalent.


I know many people who've had COVID or are younger and healthy who could receive the vaccine because they work in healthcare. They are waiting a few months because they want others to have access first. They are planning on getting it later...not feeling ambivalent.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5800 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:38 am to
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Never underestimate the ineffectiveness of gov't. EVER.



This. Saying so has become a cliche which is unfortunate. It's probably much worse than many people think.

I worked for state government and it was a bureaucratic nightmare. Hard as hell to get anything done. I left in absolute disgust.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79930 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:40 am to
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That was obviously not a promise that the current leadership intended to keep. It's a shame, really it is..




I remember democrats saying there wouldn't be a vaccine by now and even if there was they wouldn't take it because of Trump. You people really are true filth.

And then let's not forget the push to get it to other countries first and Frontline workers first.

So sorry little t baw can't get his vaccine while you sit in your basement wearing your mask.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79930 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:49 am to
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know dozens that already have

Literally dozens




I've had friends say they would in the past several months but not a single one is actually trying. They bitched about the tests, but never went and got tested when it was easy to do so.

It was all a sham to make it seem like they actually cared about people dying when it was really just OMB.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2972 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:55 am to
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know many people who've had COVID or are younger and healthy who could receive the vaccine because they work in healthcare. They are waiting a few months because they want others to have access first. They are planning on getting it later...not feeling ambivalent.


Again, this is totally unrelated to the slow roll out. Literally everywhere where appointments have been offered has seen their phone lines and/or online reservation system basically crash.

My aunt and uncle in Florida tried calling the Lee County over 500 times in 60 minutes and never got through. They booked all 5,000 appointments for the week in an hour.

Luckily they got appointments in another county as did my parents
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6823 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:03 am to
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quote:
know many people who've had COVID or are younger and healthy who could receive the vaccine because they work in healthcare. They are waiting a few months because they want others to have access first. They are planning on getting it later...not feeling ambivalent.


Again, this is totally unrelated to the slow roll out.


I agree. I was addressing the person that said there won't be a 2nd wave of folks taking the vaccine. That people were not interested. There are many who will get it later and are in Tier 1, but are allowing others to get them first.
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