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re: The truth about Amazon distribution centers in Louisiana

Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48857 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:23 am to
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Well why don’t you tell me what the net job creation is when brick and mortar stores start closing because everything is same day delivery from Amazon.



Brick and mortar has been closing for 30 years. This is a different economic world we live in and there is no going back no matter how nostalgic we want to be. Adapt or die.

There will be plenty of survivors because they will and have found a way to compete.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:28 am to
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I guess I’m the only who never ordered anything from Amazon and don’t really see the need to.
Next time you need to make a repair and order a special piece, look it up on Amazon. Or if there's a certain pair of shoes, or clothes, or whatever. Look it up and order it. I dare you. You will suddenly get what all the fuss is about.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:31 am to
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A large percentage of those jobs will be replaced by better paying higher skilled jobs. People need to realize that they need to constantly educate and better themeselves if they want to be successful. Complaining about it on the internet isn't going to bring it back.


A lot of people like to tell the poor to “get a job” instead of relying on government or criminal activity to fund their lifestyle. Except there are precious few jobs available in Louisiana that can be filled by those types of candidates.

We can’t just ignore the fact that there is a segment of the population that have no marketable skills or means to obtain them. Distribution jobs will become more automated, but the bulk of them will still around at least another 15 years or so.

What Amazon is doing in Baton Rouge is transformational and a significant boost to a part of the economy that doesn’t see much action. It’s one of the key areas where the state is behind many of its neighbors.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 10:34 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54428 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:32 am to
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Who builds all those robots?

Seriously?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260904 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:33 am to
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or means to obtain them.


The government pays for education and training of poor people.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:34 am to
My mind has been changed somewhat thanks to yak, he made some solid points and if at a minimum it revitalizes a blighted area that’s a huge win for everyone

Going to order some more toilet paper from Amazon
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:34 am to
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The government pays for education and training of poor people.



Is that why student loan debt is so low in the US?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260904 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:35 am to

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Is that why student loan debt is so low in the US?


Middle class.

If youre poor, govt has programs to cover.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:36 am to
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Is that why student loan debt is so low in the US?


How many unemployed have a college degree or higher?

He’s right that the government is educating the poor because the poor almost never achieve higher than a high school degree
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:37 am to
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bullshite. Flatscreen TVs are more reliable because the only moving parts are internal fans. Robots are entirely moving parts. They absolutely require preventative maintenance.


And flat screen TVs are insanely cheap now compared to a couple decades ago

And that's without even factoring in inflation
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260904 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:38 am to
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Except there are precious few jobs available in Louisiana


Poor people used to migrate towards work. The 1960's great society destroyed that.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17196 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:38 am to
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You are missing the point. We didn’t land the headquarters of some multinational corporation because Louisiana is a economic destination.

We got the same robotic distribution centers that are going up in every state.

Stop reading headlines only
Correct. We have two in Lexington and they are currently building a third. They are everywhere.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:38 am to
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My mind has been changed somewhat thanks to yak, he made some solid points and if at a minimum it revitalizes a blighted area that’s a huge win for everyone

Going to order some more toilet paper from Amazon
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:39 am to
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Poor people used to migrate towards work. The 1960's great society destroyed that.


Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2130 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:39 am to
I think its funny because you read the articles about how Amazon is cruel because they make people run around the warehouses faster than they can so they can meet quotas. People complain about health issues from running on concrete all day, constant static shocks when they touch the shelves and almost no breaks.

These robots solve that problem by bringing the products to the front of the distribution center where people take the items brought and pack them.

Can't have it both ways...

Robots in action
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16869 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:40 am to
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Yes, and they are typically sent to a repair facility in the US, not overseas



How can Louisiana land one of these repair facilities?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:47 am to
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If youre poor, govt has programs to cover.



High school maybe...and unfortunately those are atrociously bad in most of Louisiana. I'm sure there are government programs for higher education that I don't know about beyond that. But you really don't need that to get a job at Amazon. They will train you to scan and sort.

Louisiana gives TOPs scholarships, which are very good for what they are. But it is for college/university tuition and not for shorter term trade schools. A person that isn't particularly bright could easily attend trade school and work shifts at Amazon in the meantime. Or work their way up the ladder over time.

A huge chunk of the downstream petrochemical industry that dominates Louisiana's economy is based on skilled labor. Many of those jobs come with great wages and benefits, some even require a college degree. That's a great thing as it has built a solid middle class that isn't present everywhere in the country. But there's just not much there for unskilled labor outside of hospitality or tourism jobs, and those are centered around New Orleans. That's why Amazon hiring 3,000 or more in Baton Rouge and over 1,000 in Shreveport is a great thing for the state.

I'm expecting Target, Lowe's, and other retail giants that are trying to expand their e-commerce footprint to also start looking at Louisiana soon.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:48 am to
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How can Louisiana land one of these repair facilities?
I'm not sure how it would work with Amazon, but I am pretty sure that the facility would be made in the vicinity, seeing as how there will.be fulfillment center in Baton Rouge and Shreveport.

Our company only sells tri-state, so we are using one within our area to help with lead times
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41766 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:53 am to
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Except there are precious few jobs available in Louisiana that can be filled by those types of candidates.


This isn’t necessarily true. My husband is in the restaurant/hospitality business and there are plenty of places struggling to keep the lower paid employees right now

Point being - there is a lot of work for unskilled laborers in Louisiana
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59533 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:55 am to
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These are your jobs...

So what. Universal Basic income is coming!!!
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