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Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:30 am to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37829 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:30 am to
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I plan to read this later, but wanted to say that Cleggett was one of the biggest scumbags out there. I was a pharmacist in New Orleans East and Slidell in the late 90s and early 2000s. I had a standing policy of never filling her prescriptions. While some of her patients may have been legit, the overwhelming number of them were drug seekers. I had a few arguements with her over the phone regarding her prescribing practices. Her name still gets me pissed off to this day.




she got her just desserts
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
5161 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:30 am to
Excellent article. I'm sorry about the loss of your friend.

In the mid to late 90's I would try any drug that came around. A close friend's dad who was a pharmacist sat both of us down one night when we were home from college on Christmas break and said something to the effect of "I know y'all smoke weed and take mushrooms and all that stuff, but DO NOT take OxyContin! Not even once."
If it wasn't for that conversation I'm sure I would've gotten strung out on it. It was relatively easy to get back then and I had ample opportunity to try it. But looking, back that conversation may have saved mine and my friend's life.
His dad is a pretty cool cat. I thanked him many years later at my friend's wedding and he said something like "I wasn't an angel in college and I knew y'all weren't either, but there wasn't anything going around in college that would wreck your life like that. Not even coke, because we were all too broke to do it all the time."
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27176 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:30 am to
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I believe a lot of these medications should be pull off the market, or at least monitored closer. Marijuana should be legal in all states and people shouldn't be able to profit off of prisons.
A very simple and effective start to solving the crisis of opioid addiction.

Also, great article and condolences to those that have lost loved ones to this scourge.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65345 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:32 am to
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Damn that's crazy. I remember being 18 years old and going to see this doctor. While also going to see several others at the same time.

I wouldn't call this the most 'notorious', Dr Cookie ran one probably bigger and more lucrative with several locations.


Great read. Took me back.


Sorry for your loss.



What don't you know?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49479 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:35 am to
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. I was honestly worried I'd be chastised for posting such a long article... I know... TLDR, right?


Not when it's worth the read and a valid issue.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
12319 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:50 am to
Doing fine.

Doing fine

Doing ok.

quote:

She came back screaming: "He's not in his room, Daddy!"


Weeping.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:10 am to
That’s a great article. I was wondering how Danny’s death related to a pill mill operating years after but I see it was inspiration for the father.

Amazing how brash this doctor was. The clinic was open 24/7? Insane!
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:18 am to
That was an amazing article.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148430 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:18 am to
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Amazing how brash this doctor was.
what was also crazy was the medical 'staff' working these clinics.... straight hood folks. Dudes in their early 20's with dreads and all gold grills wearing scrubs with their drawz hanging out and Jordans on... they would sit in the parking lot in their cars with huge rims blasting gangster rap and have the clients show up and put their name on a list for first come first serve and thn have like 50-100 people in the parking lot waiting on the clinic to open once they got X amount of clients waiting.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179672 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:19 am to
Great article and what a great man.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58589 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:23 am to
Incredible story.

Thank you for posting.

Schneider is a crusader.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:29 am to
Good article. Persistence paid off. Can't blame the man.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:29 am to
I know the mills went to in-house pharmacies and that made it a little harder to stop. People taking entire day trips to Houston to see their “Doctor” and coming back with 120 Roxie’s, 120 Xanax, and 90 soma. I was amazed that it went on as long as it did.


The last one I knew of was the one that was linked earlier in the thread. The one in NOLA. I knew one of the patients through a friend. One month after the clinic got shut down that patient OD’d on heroin. But it probably wasn’t heroin.


Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41882 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:35 am to
Great read .
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:35 am to
Kenneth Wiley was another doctor in NOLA that was prescribing inappropriately. We turned all his rxs away. I reported him to the DEA twice. The second time was very upsetting- a heavily pregnant woman presented with prescriptions for the "holy trinity." I thought he had lost his license but looks like it he has been reinstated with restrictions. He can not prescribe controlled substances and has to practice in institutions like prisons.
Kenneth Wiley board of medical examiners meeting minutes

Shannon Caesar was another recent bad doctor. He was running a substance abuse clinic but selling oxycodone rxs. Disgusting! He's in
jail.

Shannon Caesar trial update
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148430 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:42 am to
The biggest most lucrative I remember was 'Shears' or something like that. Mostly ran by Dr Cookie.

The last I rememember that was true Pill Mills was the one right off the Morrison exit operating in the old strip mall. There was one on Read in the old abandon high rise. One on Houma blvd on th is lake side of Vets. One on right behind West Jeff.... but it got to the point where you couldn't doctor shop, you could only go to one a month instead of a few. And most almost made you use the inhouse pharmacy.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70181 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:46 am to
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No one expects the state bar to do anything but you'd think it'd be different for doctors. Hope that doctor goes to hell.





Please keep in mind there are bad apples no matter where you look. And cash makes good apples bad in some cases.

This example is the worst of the worst, imo. And the half dozen pain med capitalists that opened after her closing are as well.

My wife is a doctor that deals with the "worst" of society. She prescibes ibuprofen 200 mg when they ask for pain meds. When they bitch about that, she prescibes tylenol.

She is one of thousands like that.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:02 am to
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My wife is a doctor that deals with the "worst" of society. She prescibes ibuprofen 200 mg when they ask for pain meds. When they bitch about that, she prescibes tylenol.


Does she ever prescribe anything stronger in cases of true need. Because honestly, we don’t want to be to far left or right on the spectrum of pain management. If you have a broken bone give that cat some fricking Narco and not Tylenol.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13052 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:19 am to
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I believe a lot of these medications should be pull off the market, or at least monitored closer. Marijuana should be legal in all states and people shouldn't be able to profit off of prisons


There's a reason marijuana isn't legal and it sure as shite is not illegal because it's a "gateway drug". Big pharma has this country by the balls.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36164 posts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:30 pm to
Amazingly well written article. Schneider is a hero for what he has done for his community.

Also, I did not realize this was the case now:
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Drug overdoses are now the leading cause of death for Americans younger than 50.

Deaths from opioids - a class of drugs that includes prescription painkillers like Vicodin and OxyContin as well as heroin and fentanyl - have eclipsed the peak years for car crash deaths in 1972, gun deaths in 1993 and AIDS deaths in 1995. More than half a million Americans died from drug overdoses between 2000 and 2015, and more than 60 percent of those deaths involved an opioid.
Awful. Just awful.
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