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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:21 am to YoungManOldMan
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:21 am to YoungManOldMan
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Why would anybody ever go to school to have a "chance" at getting a job that's based solely on being related to someone.
While the overwhelming share of pilots are relatives, if the larger share of applicants are relatives, its logical that the new appointees will be relatives.
How many applicants are there each go round?
If you have 50 starburts in a container, 45 red and 5 orange and you need to pick 40, chances are you'll pick quite a few red ones.
Not applying for a job, because you think you won't get it is definitely how to get hired.
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:22 am to Deactived
I know, that's why I was asking you 
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:24 am to YoungManOldMan
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Why would anybody ever go to school to have a "chance" at getting a job that's based solely on being related to someone.
Never know unless you apply. It's not solely based on that.
It's not a pilot job or nothing to most people. You leave maritime school with a big license and a good degree
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:24 am to Deactived
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The pilots train the apprentices If a pilot is in an accident and at fault, they can be disciplined and fired. You don't just hop off the ship and leave the captain with the mess. Well, you are pretty much drug tested on the spot.
What I meant was more on the lines of who si responsible it a training pilot has an accident while being taught by a pilot? I would imagine docking a ship is a job you have to learn by doing not just watching.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:25 am to TH03
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The standard for pointing out blatant nepotism on the OT now is whether or not you'd take the case to court.
I thought I recalled there being a US Coast Guard investigation and a grand jury concerning all this fairly recently. What ever happened with that? Still on-going?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:25 am to ThatMakesSense
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you have 50 starburts in a container, 45 red and 5 orange and you need to pick 40, chances are you'll pick quite a few red ones.
Uh, at least 35. Can I be a river pilot now? Do we get Starburst?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:27 am to LCA131
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Uh, at least 35. Can I be a river pilot now? Do we get Starburst?
They're tropical, though.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:29 am to ThatMakesSense
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If you have 50 starburts in a container, 45 red and 5 orange and you need to pick 40, chances are you'll pick quite a few red ones
anything* to get the taste of D out of your mouth...
*except yellow
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:30 am to Slagathor
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anything to get the taste of D out of your mouth.
Your contribution has been documented.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:31 am to achenator
Yea it's on the job training for the most part. The pilot supercedes the apprentice to my knowledge if an accident were to happen. He is the state licensed pilot
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:31 am to ThatMakesSense
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Your contribution has been documented.
Please note my edit. I don't want future generations thinking I'm okay with yellow starburst.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:33 am to Slagathor
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Please note my edit. I don't want future generations thinking I'm okay with yellow starburst.
Yes, I'm sure that's what future Generations will take from your comment.
Uh, you got lunch plans?
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:34 am to Deactived
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The pilot supercedes the apprentice to my knowledge if an accident were to happen. He is the state licensed pilot
Correct, but most pilots are independent of the actual ship.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:35 am to achenator
Fault is assessed on a percentage basis in every maritime accident. The pilot, apprentice, captain, helmsman, AB on bow watch, big shooter fast asleep in his bunk will all be assessed part of the blame
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:41 am to Captain Crackysack
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Fault is assessed on a percentage basis in every maritime accident. The pilot, apprentice, captain, helmsman, AB on bow watch, big shooter fast asleep in his bunk will all be assessed part of the blame
Do who does the MOB rub out?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:57 am to SPEEDY
FWIW you can't just become a river pilot because your dad or uncle is one, it takes around 10 years to become a river pilot. It requires a 4 year degree from a approved maritime academy, Texas A&M has one of the few, during that time you must also obtain the required Coast Guard licenses, and a ton of other certifications. Then you must be selected for and complete a minimum one year apprentice program, after that you can be selected for the deputy pilot program which lasts a minimum of 4 years. While 500K is a ton of money go watch some youtube videos of river pilots boarding a ship in high seas, I wouldn't do it for any amount of money.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:00 pm to Deactived
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The pilot supercedes the apprentice to my knowledge if an accident were to happen.
And nobody supersedes the captain. Just because he relinquishes the conn of the vessel to a state pilot does not relieve the captain of his responsibilities as master of the vessel
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:05 pm to ThatMakesSense
Cant wait till the SJW make the Association hire female, lesbian, gay etc. pilots.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:07 pm to Captain Crackysack
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This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 2:00 pm
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