re: The salary you need to afford a home in 20 major US cities

Why would someone making only 215k buy a 1.2 million dollar home? Dumb decision.

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If I was going to spend that much on a house, with that salary, I'd do it in TX, LA, TN, etc.. That's a beautiful home in a great part of the city in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, and Nashville. In SF, that's an average looking, small home if you want to be close to the center of the action.

Plus, you don't have to live with SF residents.

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San Francisco prices out all of the "undesirables" while also beating the drum for everyone else to strive for "equality". There's a reason Oakland is a shithole. It's San Francisco's section 8 tenement on the other side of town.

I guess if they don't have to buy food or a car.

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I imagine they include all areas of every city listed. The number is always lower than you think, because they are including the shittier parts of town that most people wouldn't want to live. I imagine it's the easiest or fairest way to make lists like this

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It probably is, but some cities have much larger shitty areas than others

I'm thinking the same tomfoolery is going on with the Chicago numbers. I was always under the impression that Chicago was quite pricey to live in if you didn't want to reside in the hood.

Murfreesboro's real estate is getting out of control too. They're building some expensive new homes over by Siegel High and from what I've been told, people are filling them with the quickness. Used to be a sleepy little college town that nobody lived in unless you worked at State Farm or Nissan.

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I was always under the impression that Chicago was quite pricey to live in if you didn't want to reside in the hood.

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Maybe I'm jaded from the Boston real estate market, but when I was in Chicago about a year ago I was surprised at how much more affordable apartments were. And I definitely wasn't walking around the hood.

Same can be said as the East is bringing home values in Nola down as well. Time for the east to secede to make New Orleans property value great again.

I hace friends moving from Denver to BR because of housing costs. They estimate they can retire a good decade earlier.

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Monaco

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The Monoco Grand Prix is in two weeks. True ballers.

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most of the people actually needing living wages or a raise in minimum wage typically are already from those areas

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This is a keyword here. The people that need it aren't at the forefront of the conversation, nor are they the ones who are being the most vocal for it. My point is/was that their is a large concentration of people in these areas who glamorize the lifestyles there, but cannot afford it. Therefore other people should pay for it via taxes or inflation to support them. I have no problem with each local municipality or state government setting and maintaining a living wage. I do have an issue with people championing for a set of guidelines mandated nationally and paid for nationally that only helps a few while further punishing the silent majority who already fund the majority of government.

I could have been more clear with my original argument, but I am in no way marginalizing the struggle of those in need. My only argument is that with such varying costs of living that the whole $15/hr crap that has gone nationwide is asinine. The socialism bit was just a bit of vitrol from being a Xer with a lot of Xer "friends" and family who have no concept of global economics or how stateside socialism could be a huge catalyst for a second depression nationally and globally. Though I guess it would be poetic justice that what helped save the US the last time could be a final straw this time.