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re: The Red Stick Trolley flopped, so let's try a Tram!!!

Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70412 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:37 pm to
There's no money in fixed problems. People vote to fix problems, not because their problems were fixed. If the problem gets fixed, people won't show up at the polls to fix it. Get it?
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:39 pm to
They should add a monorail
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42556 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:42 pm to
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They should add a gondola


FIFY
Posted by Seymour
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2013
1633 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:40 pm to
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MidCity is 25% white, and has a median age of 35, which is 5 years over the city average of 30. I wouldn't call that young professionals.

Garden District is closer to 50% white, still has a median age of 36. Not young professional either.


What does the median age of those neighborhoods have anything to do with what type of people hang out downtown?

I said downtown is filled with the young professionals that do live in those neighborhoods. Holy reading comprehension Batman.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42556 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:19 pm to
Does the cost of the Tram matter because it keeps going up.

Article January 29, 2014 estimated at 60 million dollars.
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Article April 30, 2014 estimated at a 100 million dollars
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Jan.28, 2016 estimated at over 100 million dollars
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May 25, 2016 estimated at 150 million dollars
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June 22, 2016 estimated at 170 million dollars
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Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21913 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:23 pm to
i think it honestly comes down to not wanting to get robbed and or murdered.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70412 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:28 pm to
I would be very interested to find out why the costs tripled so quickly.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:32 pm to
Let's build a tram
It will cost 60 million
Oh the feds are going to help a bunch
It costs 170 million now!!!



LA style
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:33 pm to
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BR isnt very pedestrian friendly. If I were to use public transportation to run errands, I would never get anything done.


yep and the public transit is down right bad.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42556 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:33 pm to
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I would be very interested to find out why the costs tripled so quickly.


That would be my second question, the first one being how many people do they expect to ride a year?

The second would be the cost, and the third would be how much is EBR going to have to pay for it?

From what I've read we've spent 2 and got a Federal grant and spent it (1.7mill). We just agreed to spend 10 million to find out what the answers to questions 1 and 2 are.

My fourth question is how much a year will it cost to operate and question five is who will operate it?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40831 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:34 pm to


And yet, no matter how many times this story plays over and over all around the country, people still support this stuff no matter the evidence.

Can't wait for that California rail line final number.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42556 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:35 pm to
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Let's build a tram It will cost 60 million Oh the feds are going to help a bunch It costs 170 million now!!!


Let's build a Tram, it's only 60 million dollars.
Oh, you want air conditioning, well then that another 110 million or a total of 170.

I bet that's how it went.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42556 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:38 pm to
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Can't wait for that California rail line final number.


And the Tram idea has been floated for several years, but only right before the Council was to vote on committing big money (10 million) did we learn it was 170 million and no one on the Council batted an eye.

You know city Hall is behind this and no matter what comes out of the 10 million dollar study/plan/etc. and no matter how much the Feds do or don't come up with, the Tram is going to be built no matter what.

I just wish the same type of muscle that was used for this and to block St. George would have been used for a Loop around BR 10 years ago. We'd be driving on it by now.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:37 pm to
I have yet to see a realistic number presented as to what the ridership numbers will be. I assume the consultants making money off this thing will say it will be 1000x more than the free busses that currently exist.
Posted by Horsemeat
2025 Contributor Of The Year
Member since Dec 2014
15492 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:49 pm to
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We see evidence all around us of the failure of public transportation in our area; yet we grow more and more bold and spend more and more money trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.


For me to ride a bus from my apartment at bluebonnet/airline area to the corner of bluebonnet/perkins would be 3 separate buses for a 4 mile ride.

There's your problems with public transit here - the routes are f*cking stupid. There's not 1 bus that goes the length of bluebonnet/coursey, every route has some weird pattern to it that really makes no sense. If I lived in NOLA I'd use the street cars and buses all the time because the routes make sense and their money goes to something run half assed decent.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105234 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:57 pm to
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People in the south see public transit as something for the poors. Maybe other places see it differently.


My upper-middle class sister (no pics) lives in a small town near Seattle. She has a car, but uses the county-wide bus system regularly. I've ridden it before, and sure there are poors, but they're far from the only ones riding.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88945 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:03 pm to
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Can you blame us? Have you seen the people here?


It's a leper colony out there.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38020 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:03 pm to
I'm not taking a bus or tram. I like my truck. It gives me freedom from the bus's' schedule. I sure ain't standing at a tram or bus stop in this heat or rain or cold rain in winter. BR is wasting it's time and money with this shite. Just fix Goverment or Fla. street downtown or any of the other shitty roads that plague this state .
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 7:03 pm to
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I have yet to see a realistic number presented as to what the ridership numbers will be. I assume the consultants making money off this thing will say it will be 1000x more than the free busses that currently exist.


Bump because I've been axing for but have yet to receive the numbers. I just see where proponents want to take my money.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 7:11 pm to
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We see evidence all around us of the failure of public transportation in our area; yet we grow more and more bold and spend more and more money trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.


People don't use public transit, because it's poorly developed.

Public transit is poorly developed, because people don't use it.

People don't use pub...
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