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re: The OT's favorite topic this time of year...the temperature...It can actually kill you now

Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:57 pm to
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I think its real, but over exaggerated.

The earth will be fine. Its the uber soft humans that have issues. frick em. If they cant adjust, let them die out.


This. The problem with the environmental movement is that from the get go they were all in on saving the planet. The planet predates man considerably and will be here long after man is gone. Had they been honest and said "look, we care as much for the planet as the planet does us." they would have gotten far more support. Sane people know the planet ain't in any danger, its the people living on it like fleas on a dog who will suffer if the planet changes just a little bit. All you gotta do is walk along a road anywhere in the US or the world for that matter and you will see how little caring there is in the relationship between man and the planet....you don't have to walk...drive along a barbed wire fence almost anywhere west of the Mississippi and it will be festooned with walmart bags...the damned things migrate like crazy. They do it east of the river too but there is enough brush and shite to hide most of them. The planet is fine, man may or may not be, who knows.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Interesting thing about temperature.
It can be measured. Is the average temp going up globally?
Yes. Not sure how people argue this.



'Cause the measuring devices are more accurate today....duh....


Science works when it supports your world view, its inaccurate as hell when it does not.....
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
881 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:20 pm to


Really need to look at global temps collectively. Picking a random place doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. But chart above shows recent temps above the normal range much more often than below. Also touching on record max temps frequently.

Once again, temperature can be measured. The temperatures are going up.
People will believe what they want regardless.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71447 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:20 pm to
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'Cause the measuring devices are more accurate today....duh....


Science works when it supports your world view, its inaccurate as hell when it does not.....

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:25 pm to
It snowed here last night.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
881 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:25 pm to
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'Cause the measuring devices are more accurate today....duh....


Lol
You are saying that the rising temperatures globally are because of thermometer error?
There is no way you really believe that.

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Science works when it supports your world view, its inaccurate as hell when it does not


Once again, its just facts. Nothing to do with view, opinion or politics
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:30 pm to
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None of this has anything to do with my post.


I was responding to someone who believed that last summer was generally mild, with only the southeastern US experiencing abnormally high temperatures. That was false and the facts bear that out.


You're so full of shite You brought up last summer as a response to me and then made teh strawman about many here not believing last summer was hot. Now you're claiming victory because one singular poster made a claim about last year's heat being regional. That poster also didn't say mild everywhere else, he said average. There's a difference. But go ahead and keep inventing things to argue against.
Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:32 pm to
Spent 8 hours in and out of my pool Saturday with my 4 yo. He’s just fine.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:33 pm to
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Lol
You are saying that the rising temperatures globally are because of thermometer error?
There is no way you really believe that.


Thats what a pile of folks posting to this thread seem to think....
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1725 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:43 pm to
Don’t know how you all tolerate Deep South humidity. Kentucky is bad enough. Heat index near 100 for the next week.

I told my wife that a summer home in the UP of Michigan is better than this. Not that I’ll be affording that soon
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Looking forward to a couple weeks in Wisconsin at the family cottage, should get down into the 50s every night.

We are heading to Calgary/Eastern B.C. in a couple of weeks.

Highs in the low 70's and upper 40's/low 50's at night. Bring it the frick on!
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 5:16 pm to
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Out of curiosity, I decided to look back to 1980 when I was a 10 year old kid living in rural north Alabama. During the summer, unless it was storming, we were outside, usually shirtless, doing things like playing football, riding bikes, and all the other things kids did then. But that’s only if we weren’t mowing the yard or I was at the farm next door feeding cows, or on the tractor bush hogging (that was my favorite). Anyway, here is what I found about temps in north Alabama that summer of 1980…

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The National Weather Service reported that the hottest day in Alabama during the heat wave was on July 17, 1980, when over 80% of the state recording temperatures of at least 100 degrees with the rest reaching 105 degrees. The highest reading that day was 108 degrees in Bessemer, Aliceville and Jasper.


Remembering the summer of 1980, one of the worst heat waves in Alabama history

And that’s not counting the good month or so we’d spend in central Florida where it was even hotter.

Somehow, we survived though.


Lessee, where was I summer of '80? Backing up, summer of '81 was spent at a NSF program at Tennessee Tech in an UNAIRCONDITIONED dorm. That was well north of my home in the NW corner of AL, but to get there, I had to have finished my car the prior summer....so, summer of '80, I was outside all day working to revive my ancient, decrepit MG so that I could drive it to school that Fall, and to TTU the next summer. In that heatwave, I was rebuilding brakes (with asbestos linings no doubt), pulling an engine with a come along hanging from a tree fork to change a clutch, laying on my back rewiring, hammering out old suspension bushings, swapping out a rear axle, etc, etc.......

Oh yeah, MGs that old didn't come with AC either. We were not only tougher, we could think critically for ourselves.

Having said that, my daughter was in a national championship-winning HS marching band less than 10 years ago, and they were outside practicing on asphalt most of the day for summers. They kept a ton of iced water and athletic drinks handy, munched on frozen/semi-frozen fruit all day, and seemed to do just fine. So it's not all kids.....
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100294 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Now kids can't be outside for more than a few minutes to an hour and they are bordering on heat stroke, sever sunburn and totally overwhelmed. (INB4 insert your witty response here)


That’s because kids spend too much time inside playing video games and don’t become accustomed to it
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10556 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Once again, temperature can be measured. The temperatures are going up.


i literally posted recorded temperatures for multiple cities now. and all of them show the same basic trend.

the high temps are holding pretty steady with their averages from over 100 years ago.

that’s actual recorded temps.

our winters have gotten a lot milder than they were in the past, which brings the averages up.

but the highs during hottest parts of the year are still holding right around where they have always been since we started measuring.
so it’s not getting hotter.
we just are no longer dropping as low as we once did.

it’s simple math.
if your average high temp is around 95 and you’re average low temp is 65, then your overall average will be somewhere around 80.

if your average high temp is 95, but your average low temp is 57 then your average overall will be around 76.

your climate didn’t get any hotter than it once did.
you just don’t get as cold as you once did.

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