re: The ***OFFICIAL*** 11th Annual JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread

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said he couldn’t recall just to come back an hour later saying he was in Tyler TX

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In the "Men Who Killed Kennedy" documentary, some maids and servers to wealthy Dallas people were at a party that was held on the night prior to the killing. The ladies said the men were all celebrating the coming death of Kennedy and that their guy would be in office.
It's insinuated GHWB, Yarborough, Bentson and other politicians were there.

Two podcast series that are a must listen for anyone interested in the JFK assassination are True Anon (5 part series) and Death is Just Around the Corner (4 part series)

Cord Meyer's wife had an affair with JFK.

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On a brisk autumn day in October 1964, Washington D.C. socialite and painter Mary Pinchot Meyer was out for an afternoon stroll on the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal towpath in Georgetown, a route she often took, when she was shot and killed in broad daylight.May 25, 2020

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He was a high ranking in the CIA and hated JFK.

I’m 58 and studied the Cosa Nostra from about 10 years old because of my brother that was 17 when The Godfather came out.
Informative. Thanks

This speech by JFK sort of ties in with a few theories...
Youtube - JFK speech on secret societies
And here's another video with the same first two minutes, followed by a montage of visual commentary starting with the scene of the shooting in Dallas, then graphics suggesting culpability of the families who own/control the Fed, etc.
Youtube - the speech that got JFK killed
The second video goes a little hard into conspiracy theory land and I question some of the numbers & facts they published, but I still find it interesting.

In any case, I think some people argue the monolithic power that operates clandestinely was the communists, but JFK explicity names secret societies as being integral to the hidden enemy. That lines up a little more with the various masonic orders, etc., which often get blamed for corrupting and overthrowing governments (probably correctly in some cases) from the French Revolution to the present.

It may seem abstract to point at secret societies, but on the other hand, such organizations-- including Skull & Bones, of which both GW and I think George HW Bush were a part-- do tend to tap into both rich and talented pools of young men to form their networks. And, in exchange for promises of paving the way for career advancement, initiation into these groups tends to involve embarrasing acts (being filmed naked and sometimes in sexual acts) that act as leverage in making initiates stay silent and pliable to the demands of those who run things.

To my mind, it doesn't seem a stretch to imagine the Bush family and other players like the Dulles boys being connected through various groups which sat atop the CIA, FBI, State Dept, etc. And, I don't think it's a stretch to say families like the Rockefellers (who were heavily involved with starting the WHO, the UN, and other NWO agencies), and the Rothschilds, who were partners in crime with the Rockefellers in setting up The Federal Reserve in the US colluded to recruit and promote people in such organizations that favored their interests. And I think David Rockefeller was pretty heavily involved with the CIA, to boot.

To the extent JFK threatened the Fed, he potentially risked drawing the ire of those in the CIA who were allied to the Fed's interests. To the extent he was critical of the CIA, he potentially drew the ire of the
Fed.

In short, to criticize secret societies as he did in the videos I posted above, JFK was indirectly pointing a finger at many of them without naming names. I'm not sure when when he gave this speech or how long until he was shot, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to think that once he made this speech, the people he was pointing a finger at perceived him an uncontrollable threat and helped make sure he wasn't well protected in Dallas and that known threats were not stopped.

I’d always heard he was about to dump LBJ out the airlock.

You’d be hard pressed to find a politician who was a bigger scumbag than LBJ, and I don’t doubt for a second he was behind it.

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he Zapruder film was bought by Life magazine within the first day. Life let the feds know they had it, so the feds went on contract to borrow the footage. It was sent to the "spook" side of the Kodak lab to be developed for review. In the first night (Saturday), the duty agent developed the film and returned it to the waiting federal agents. The very next night, the film was returned to the lab to get developed again, this time the head of the CIA film lab would develop it. The second version would go on to be what we see as the Zapruder film, with many edits. Years later...the Zapruder film was released... Agent 1 knew it was altered but could not say anything for treasonous reasons. It wasn't until 4-5 years ago, an archival specialist at the Smithsonian noticed a difference in the negatives with the footage, he began a search which revealed the two films, and came to the conclusion a Hollywood level edit team works the film. What does that tell us?

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Do you have any links for that? I’ve never heard that before and you’ve gotten my interest up

It’s crazy to think that the driver shot him.

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Who packages this info and sends it out to the papers?
The news today refuses to report about the details of the Waukegan massacre...who tells them not to?

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This was 1963. A time when people actually did their job. You can't look at the investigation through today's lens. You have to look at it through the time period it actually happened.

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You're gonna convince me that within hours, AT THAT DAY AND AGE a few reporters knew shite about Oswald's international travels and published it hours after his arrest.

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I'm not telling you shite. News reporters from the era and location are.

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I said it was dialed back...I wasn't arguing what he said, if there were 10 people who were they? Where were they, did you see the military there, where were the uniformed personnel?

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Don't think a standing army was typical for any presidential motorcade.

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That just sounds like some stuff they just said to the Warren Commission. Which was obviously a button up situation.
If the Warren Commission wanted to know, they would've gotten details...

Bomb squads, spotters, snipers all kinds of Secret Service support moves around for POTUS support, even then.

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Again, this was 1963. The things you think you know about the Secret Service now, and many of it's safe guards weren't a thing then. Hell, most of the tactics used now were developed because of the JFK assassination.


Listen Ice, do yourself a favor and don't get too heavily invested in what you believe here. I have an open mind on the assassination. I do think a lot of things with it are screwy. But, i also understand that a lot of the smoke is bullshite and Oliver Stone is the MAIN REASON there is so much smoke to a conspiracy theory.

What you need to understand is Jim Garrison was a pretty shady prosecutor and was very unethical. Perry Russo being the "key guy" should tell you all you need to know. And 99% of the shite from the movie regarding Clay Shaw/Bertrand was complete bullshite, and part of the reason Garrison had such a shitty reputation.

Did you know that Garrison was tried for corruption?

I will say, though, that the assassination conspiracy is fascinating but it has way too many holes and ANYONE can throw in a "well what about (insert shady character/s)" into the story and we can go down new rabbit holes.